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The Square Stern Build

I actually ended up fixing the Johnson with a pair of pliers and a knife sharpener. I broke the sheer pin three times yesterday. I still haven't quite got the hang of motoring, that shallow water that canoes zip right over is no good for a motor, as soon as the prop hits a rock, it's game over.
 
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Having fun with your Johnson in the old days.
 

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You know what to do if your Johnson starts to smoke, right?

Slow down and use lube.

Alan
 
Just thought I'd give an update....I broke down and got a new Suzuki four stroke for the SS. It's a 2.5 horse, pretty slick. With just me and my cooler I can hit 14 k an hour. Had it on a trip this weekend, had over 900 pounds in it, lots of freeboard left. Hopefully, I'll finally get back to makoki next week.
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Just thought I'd give an update....I broke down and got a new Suzuki four stroke for the SS. It's a 2.5 horse, pretty slick. With just me and my cooler I can hit 14 k an hour.

Mem, that is a great little motor. After a lot of research and reviews the 2.5 hp Suzuki 4-stroke was the selection for the kayak-outrigger motor canoe, and it will soon be hooked to a 20 foot Prospector.

It is quieter than most, relatively stingy with gas, gets high marks for dependability and you are not leaving a sheen of unburned petroleum product in your wake as with a 2-stroke.

We never had reason to get much above half throttle with that little Suzuki.
 
Great looking boat!

Would you say it was easier to build than a canoe or comparable?

Where did you get the plans from?
 
Thanks guys, Mike, I too did a ton of research on the four strokes before I put out the money. I was tied between the Honda and the Suzuki, but the Honda is air cooled, and quite a bit louder. A friend had one out this weekend with a 16 foot coleman canoe, I left him in my wake like I was pulling a way from a paddler.

The plans came from www.greenval.com They are not advertised, but if you drop Martin Step an email, you will be able to purchase them. With the exception of worrying about the transom, and how to tie it in properly, I would say it was a very easy build. I rushed this one at the end, so there's nuthin fancy, but it works pretty good. I would say 2.5 is the max for a build that size (17.5'). If one were to put a higher powered motor on it, there would have to be quite a bit more reinforcement in the hull. When going against the wind with a light load, the waves slap the hull like two MMA fighters having a slappy fight.
 
sighhhh....my Y stern sits wrapped in a tarp outside ...lonely as a vegetarian at a pig roast....while I fix cars for friends and family. At some point I must try to get back to it. Trying to deal on another 4 HP.
dang that is a nice boat...you are getting more intrepid by the day. Memaquay...women want him, fish jump into his boat to be near him, bears want his beer and mosquitoes his blood. Is there no stopping this outrageous man.
 
Looks great Mem ! Must be flat enough to plane, to get that speed ! Nice !

My first boat was a 10' Jon Boat, with an old 3 1/2 hp Evinrude. If I sat on the bottom ahead of the rear seat, she would plane, and scoot ! Boy that brings back memories !
Jim

Jim
 
Ha ha, Iskweo, I'm only even locally recognized because I'm married to a fantastic wife, she's the legendary one! Jim, I can't plane this sucker with the 2.5. If I don't have any weight in the boat, there's only about two feet of it actually touching the water, it's quite a site to behold!
 
Late to this thread, but I wanted to voice my admiration, jealousy and nostalgia.

On the lake I grew up on every summer in Maine, where I paddled a Grumman canoe, we had a wooden rowboat with a 3 hp Evinrude. To my young mind, a Johnson was the "enemy" motor. The only other motor that existed was the Mercury, mainly on expensive speedboats. Of them, I was envious.

But I scooted all over our chain of three lakes with the Evinrude, and was delighted to figure out that I could magically increase maximum speed by weighting down the bow. It was only about ten years ago, in discussions about canoe physics, that I came to understand why. Researcher that I later became, I had no way of doing so in the late 40's to early 60's in that home. No internet. No TV. No telephone. The only way to learn anything was by personal experience, library books or, when affordable, a magazine.

Life in the real world of nature, of simple tasks to provide food and warmth for family, and of face-to-face communication, was so much more fulfilling than the anomie and fake life of the modern electronic virtual world.
 
"I can't plane this sucker with the 2.5..."
In my preteen years I was under the happy delusion I was a necessary and well loved boat mate for whenever an older cousin would need to make a grocery run to town, a pick up or drop off whomever was visiting, or any of the many other quick outboard outings between cottage island and town docks. Always eager to gas it up, carry groceries or just tag along, there was never any hesitation to the question "Hey Brad, wanna go to town?" I was untying the bowline and jumping in up front before my cuz was even ready to go. Aaaannd then a couple years passed and I overheard "Yeah, nothing like having some extra weight in the bow to keep 'er down, even if Brad is a little light." Aaahh fffff. Still, I got over the sting pretty quickly. There are plenty worse things than riding in the bow on a northern lake feeling the spray and splash reminding you of where you're spending your summer holidays. Priceless.
Next time we're up there mem I'll be bow ballast for you, that is if you don't mind running bow heavy. lol
 
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I bought a 2 hp Honda years ago for a side mounted double end canoe because of the light weight. Great for going upstream in some of the bigger rivers up here, then float back down. I have used it a bunch on big boats for trolling, while fishing or for steerage while drifting down the big rivers in my Grumman Sport Boat. I really like those outboards from Japan, they sip gas and start on the first or second pull. Back in the 70's I had a 1.5 horse Johnson that I used on a side mount on 17 foot double end Grumman canoe. Back in those days you could travel in the BWCA on many more routes than you can today, and I believe everywhere in the Quetico Park. We would motor up one of the motor routes to get away from the weekend crowds, stash the motor then paddle off to our secret fishing spots. Once upon returning to the the motor, I found out the hard way that porcupines like to chew on plastic or maybe it was rubber gas lines. The motor started up just fine then died after the gas that was in the carburetor was used up. While it was running it sucked up traces of balsam needles and dirt, I tried electric tape to fix the chewed line, but by that time the carburetor was plugged with gunk. There is not a more cranky guy than one who is forced to paddle back to the put in, with a non-working motor laying in the bottom of his canoe. After that I always carried extra gas lines.
Evinrude and Johnson outboard motors started out as competitors but, somehow became OMC and were made in the same factory since some time in the 1930's, kinda like Chevy's and GMC pickup trucks. different decals but the same in every way.
 
By gawd that looks like fun, and reminds me of group trips long ago; beverages beyond reason and even backwoods birthday parties. Friend Tom’s birthday celebration where all of his “gifts” secretly prearranged to be pink. Who knew they made bright pink dry bags and other accessories.

Massive camp kitchens and groaning bar tables, foodstuffs enough for a village, beers that wouldn’t (yet, give us time) fit in the coolers, white man bonfires.

I think I’m a good judge of facial character. Wimmen folks who give as good as they get in repartee?

Can I come next time? I’ll try to have the 2.5HP Suzuki on the 20 foot Prospector.
 
I dig that rig, there's a place where outboards belong on a canoe and that looks like a good one. Well done start to finish.

Need to see some moose parts in there this fall. :)
 
Gonna try really hard to put a moose in it this fall. Ordered a new/old 30-06 yesterday. Mike you are welcome to our epic parties anytime, especially with a 20 foot prospector!
 
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