Canoe ident- need help this is located in quebec there are no markings odd floor pattern any thoughts? Only pics i could get…

[Circa1856]

 

[Alan Gage]

That is a unique pattern. What is the construction method?

Alan

 

[Circa1856]

Shared through a friend in quebec canoe was inherited with a cottage in the 50’s.. i know little… seats almost look like hide.. this is why im sharing .. to find lut more - thanks for asking…

 

[Alan Gage]

Hopefully someone will recognize the floor pattern but otherwise there just isn't much to go on. I can't even tell if that floor pattern magic marker or if it's the actual material making that pattern.

Alan

 

[Circa1856]

It is wood in a woven pattern… odd indeed .. which is why i got excited when i first saw it … very odd… some old boy will know..

 

[Alan Gage]

Any idea what the exterior of the hull is made from? Does the exterior share the same pattern as the interior?

 

[Circa1856]

All goid questions i will ask.

 

[Circa1856]

Good questions

 

[Alan Gage]

All goid questions i will ask.

While you're asking width and length would be good to know as well. And more pictures showing different parts of the hull.

 

[sailsman63]

Maybe also check if there are any visible fasteners in that herringbone weave - are there ends of clinched over tacks on the inside?

 

[Benson Gray]

My guess is that this was someone's experiment with building an alternative skin-on-frame style canoe. It does not look like any manufactured canoe that I have ever seen before. More pictures and details will help as others have mentioned.

Benson

 

[stevet]

Well if Benson doesn’t know……holy moly!
Will be interesting if anyone can help ID it as it certainly is beautiful. Maybe contact Canadian Canoe Museum?
More pics would be great.

 

[Nick Pending]

My guess is that this was someone's experiment with building an alternative skin-on-frame style canoe. It does not look like any manufactured canoe that I have ever seen before. More pictures and details will help as others have mentioned.

Benson

Can't really see anything in the pic provided so far, but my initial perception is cold-molded mahogany (or other various woods). Could be composite, also. The latter is even more likely, but my guess still leans more toward the molded mahogany, of which I really know little about. I've seen a few, but none like that.

 

[UCanoe_2]

More pictures, please Circa.

My vote is also for cold molding. But I can't figure out how or why someone would install veneer strips in what appears to be a basketweave pattern. That would make a complicated construction technique even more complicated.

Here's a photo of contemporary cold molded boat construction, from the WoodenBoat school https://www.thewoodenboatschool.com/courses/cocepts-of-wood-composite-construction/



Before modern epoxy adhesives were introduced, there was hot molding, which was similar in construction but used glues that needed heat to cure. Cold molding uses adhesives that cure at room temperature.

 

[Benson Gray]

I can't figure out how or why someone would install veneer strips in what appears to be a basketweave pattern.

I agree, the air gaps would clearly not improve the effectiveness of the glues. The catalog pages below are from several major molded canoe manufacturers and none of them display a basketweave pattern.

Benson

 

[Gamma1214]

Looking again at the original picture, I'm intrigued... it appears to be covered in canvas but I only see one rib. I'm wondering if basket weaving the strips was an attempt to lighten a w/c canoe by using interlocking strips in place of the ribs. I'm also wondering how it worked out in practical application...

Did you buy it? or paddle it? Any idea what it weighs or if it is, indeed, covered w/ canvas?

 

[UCanoe_2]

The canoes in Benson's post #15 above do not have ribs. IDK why there would be the single rib in the OP canoe.

In its purest form, cold molding is a monocoque assembly, somewhat like strip built canoes. This beautiful little dinghy shows the construction. She has a keelson, seat risers, and thwarts but no internal transverse framing (ribs).

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