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Barrens meets Vader

Jim,
The 1/8" thick H80 Divinycell has a density of 5 lbs/cu ft
Nice dry western red cedar is 21 to 22 lbs/cu ft.
How much weight could you save? I dunno, but you know the area of your cedar insert...



OK, First by your ratio, cedar is 4 times heavier than Divinycell, when the thicknesses are the same. Now how do they compare in stiffness ? Would you say, that if the foam was twice as thick as the cedar. They would be comparable in stiffness ?

If so, that would make the foam half as heavy.

I wish I had weighed the insert ! I'll just guess it at 4#. The Divinycell might have made a 2# difference.

My figures could be all wrong, but it's still worth considering !

I need to figure the Divinycell cost !

Thanks for the info !

Jim
 
Jim,
I have that H80 1/8" sample siting in front of me just now. Double layers of 6 oz on each side.
3-5/5" x 8-1/4" size and I can hardly cause any deflections with my hands. It is much stiffer than my stripped deck and bulkhead panels, those are single layers of 4 oz with 5/32" thick strips before sanding.

I need to make more samples, then I need to ask my former employees to perform some instrumented load-deflection plots to get a firm value for the stiffness.
As it is, I have modeled representative sections in Inventor, and performed virtual stress analysis tests.
There was essentially no difference between cedar core laminates and foam core laminates of the same dimensions. BTW, the 3D modeling software is very accurate, errors (or deviations from real world tests) are generally attributable to the constraints assigned and simplifications assumed. With such simple models, these Inventor models are very close to real world values.

As for costs, the Divinycell I bought was $50 for a 4 ft x 8 ft sheet, or $1.56/sq ft.
Around me, cedar costs about $2.00/linear ft for 1 x 6, 2S.
If that cedar were cut into 5/32" strips with 1/16" blade waste, you could get 25 strips, each 3/4" wide.
If I did the math correctly, it ends up at $1.33/sq ft of cedar. Of course, with a wider blade and more waste, the costs only go up from there.
 
It looks like the Divinycell has the edge, over cedar. When you consider everything. I'm guessing you can cut Divinycell with a knife, or a toothless blade.
No waste !
No saw dust ?
25 strips at 5/32", sounds about right, from a 1 x 6 cedar, and a thin kerf blade.

Thinking anyone with an allergy to cedar(I'm one) would be excited !

No more matching strips !

I also like your use of thickened epoxy, as strip glue. Polyurethane (Gorilla glue) would expand, and create a nightmare.
Thinking out loud. Dry wall mud, as an adhesive, and filler on the foam ?

Now to find Divinycell, and figure shipping .

Thanks for your engineering work Stripperguy !

Getting excited !

Jim
 
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