I've been an acquaintance of Bill Jr for years, when his new epoxy layup first came out a few years ago Bill and I were talking about my aging fleet of expedition weight Kippawas that I was using for teaching kids and group tripping, while he was dismayed to find out I had retired and given the fleet to another instructor, he mentioned the new layup and handed me a sample piece and a 3lb club hammer I bashed that sample HARD several times on a piece of jagged granite and was surprised to see that while it creased and gouged the gelcoat, it did not visibly cut or fray a single fiber, last time I saw that kind of performance in a canoe layup it was a 2nd generation royalite Wenonah.