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Hi Everybody - I wanted to share a few pictures from my first paddle of the season. This is the second Pal I built this winter, one for my brother and this one for me. Many of you are familiar with this design, but for those who aren't, the Pal is a 16' tandem originally built by the Chestnut Canoe Co. that can service as a large solo canoe.

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This is really just an experiment to see whether I could ever get down to owning only one canoe. Having watched Bill Mason paddle his Pal in various canoe films over the last 4 decades, I thought I should try this design. I used a lot of scrap strips for the build supplemented with spruce that I can get in 16' lengths for a good price. I tried to keep the weight down, so gunwales are the same spruce while seats, thwarts and decks are cherry which is about 25% lighter than the ash I can get. I don't really have a way to weigh it, but it feels reasonably light, definitely under 50 lbs. I used 4oz e-glass inside and out with an outside layer below the bilge of 4oz s-glass, and thin dynel strips just on the wear areas of the stems. I don't really care for the look of the planking, a bit too busy for me, but the outside will be painted red.

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After getting the seats in the day before, we took it out for a test paddle on Dailey Lake with Emigrant Peak in the background. We weren't out long, as it was a bit windy and cold, and I don't like paddling with a down jacket on, but I really liked the way it handled, especially solo. We travel pretty light, so this should be a good tripping canoe for us. The bow seat needs to be raised an inch, and the stern seat lowered an inch. I'm still at odds with what to do about the tilt of the bow seat. Leaving it flat feels uncomfortable for the a bow paddler, but tilting it forward would be a problem for a solo paddler. Have to think on that one. Aside from the paint, varnish and screwing down some scrap stem band on the ends it's done.

Mark

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You cant go wrong with one of those. I have a low end Pete Champlain waiting repairs which is essentially the same boat. We have been bitten by the Chestnut Chum bug which is a 15 foot cousin to the Pal. You can get those built in cedar strip too and they are a super sweet solo. Mem and Mihun both have them.

I am with you though Pook. Still padding the beloved Huron. (15 foot )

Front seat issue. Bevel the front edge of the front seat to make it a little less bitey on the legs and it will still be good to use soloing ?? Or a removable foot rack on the floor to raise the front paddlers legs a touch ?
 
Mark !
That Pal should serve you well !
I do Cringe when I hear of someone Painting a Stripper !

But I also understand your reasoning !

Nicely done !

Jim
 
Thanks, You’re not alone Jim. Almost everybody I know agrees with you. Another reason for the paint is to reduce the amount of conversations at grocery stores and gas stations when I have the boat on the car. Most asked question: “Did you build that from a kit?” I’m not even sure what that means! I’d rather have a conversation with someone who recognizes the shape of the canoe rather than just the wood. From my seat it won’t be painted at all.

Mark
 
Thanks, You’re not alone Jim. Almost everybody I know agrees with you. Another reason for the paint is to reduce the amount of conversations at grocery stores and gas stations when I have the boat on the car. Most asked question: “Did you build that from a kit?” I’m not even sure what that means! I’d rather have a conversation with someone who recognizes the shape of the canoe rather than just the wood. From my seat it won’t be painted at all.

Mark

When I built my stripper I got a lot of those types of question. One time, every attendant at a rest area on the NJ Turnpike stopped pumping gas and came over to admire it. But after the first couple of years I got tired of answering the same questions over and over again, especially at the put in and the take out when I just want to get on or off the water..
 
I never tire of talking about boats with people. They usually have to make excuses to get away from ME...lol. Painting a stripper can really bring a whole new dimension to building them. This is a picture of Karin's chum ( jacks special)
 

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In some sense, I’m sorry I ever learned about, and joined this site. I came to canoeing in Vancouver. Everybody paddled Royalex or fibreglass/Kevlar Clipppers. Only a very few people owned strippers or w/c canoes. Those canoes mostly stayed in the garage while their owners tried unsuccessfully to sell them. Sure, I had seen videos of Bill Mason paddling his classic canoe. But that was Bill. Kathleen and I would be tripping through rapids on far northern, Canadian rivers. We only ever considered Royalex. Mad River Explorers were among the go to boats in Vancouver at the time.

But now, thanks to this site, I have seen all the beauty I have missed out on. I want a stripper and/or a w/c canoe. Nay. I lust after a stripper and or a w/c canoe. Too late now, though. My canoe buying days are over. dang this site!!!!!!
 
But now, thanks to this site, I have seen all the beauty I have missed out on. I want a stripper and/or a w/c canoe. Nay. I lust after a stripper and or a w/c canoe. Too late now, though. My canoe buying days are over. dang this site!!!!!!

I hear from a trusted source that Dogbrain will have at least one w/c canoe for sale, and he does good work!
 
I know talking politics is strictly forbidden on this site, but I'm willing to make an exception just this one time.
If this CT group is considered a democracy I vote in favour of Dogbrain painting the exterior of his fine Pal a beautiful pleasing red. If on the other hand we live in a communist cabal then for the good of the CT community he should do the right thing and paint the exterior of his fine Pal a beautiful pleasing red. But then again if we're subjugated under a supreme ruler then I hereby command he paint the exterior of his fine Pal a beautiful pleasing red.
I just thought I should clear this up.

lol
 
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I know talking politics is strictly forbidden on this site, but I'm willing to make an exception just this one time.
If this CT group is considered a democracy I vote in favour of Dogbrain painting the exterior of his fine Pal a beautiful pleasing red. If on the other hand we live in a communist cabal then for the good of the CT community he should do the right thing and paint the exterior of his fine Pal a beautiful pleasing red. But then again if we're subjugated under a supreme ruler then I hereby command he paint the exterior of his fine Pal a beautiful pleasing red.
I just thought I should clear this up.

lol

DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week,...

ARTHUR: Yes.

DENNIS: ...but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting...

ARTHUR: Yes, I see.

DENNIS: ...by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,...

ARTHUR: Be quiet!

DENNIS: ...but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major-- < RED CANOE DECISION

ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!

WOMAN: Order, eh? Who does he think he is? Heh.

ARTHUR: I am your king!

WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.

ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings.

WOMAN: Well, how did you become King, then?

ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake,...


Looks like it will have to be a two-thirds majority Odyssey.
 
I want a stripper and/or a w/c canoe. Nay. I lust after a stripper and or a w/c canoe. Too late now, though. My canoe buying days are over. dang this site!!!!!!

I'll sell you a used but good one for a reasonable price.....find me an older 2 stroke 9.9 outboard in working condition, I'll meet you half way, say somewhere in Manitoba.
 
I'll sell you a used but good one for a reasonable price.....find me an older 2 stroke 9.9 outboard in working condition, I'll meet you half way, say somewhere in Manitoba.

Sounds tempting, Mem, but I don’t have an outboard. Would be nice to meet, anyway, though. I’m only 50 km from the Manitoba border. Still hoping, somehow, to get my Mohawk XL13 to recped.
 
My Chestnut Pal in Woodland Caribou PP. I used it as a solo tripper for a long time.

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