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($35 a pair vs $70 a pair)
https://www.amazon.com/HYOUT-Adjust...pID=519kNDMOmJL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
https://www.rei.com/product/845322/rei-co-op-adjustable-tarp-pole-single
OK, there is no contest in quality, strength, durability, materials or construction between the two; the Keltys win in every aspect. I knew that going in, but I bought a set of the $35 HYOUT poles for a look see. With a specific use in mind.
The HYOUTs are 3 / 4 inch 7075 aluminum vs the Kelty 1 inch 6000. The HYOUTS are much bendier when extended full length.
But for lighter duty work the HYOUTs (henceforth un-capitalized Hyout) pack smaller and skinnier, lengthwise when collapsed and narrower in bundled circumference.
Pack length: The Keltys fold down to 29 inches long, the Hyouts to 23.5 inches
Bundle size: Two bundled Kelty poles, 9.5 inch circumference, two Hyout poles, 7 inch circumference.
P6200926 by Mike McCrea, on Flickr
The Hyouts do not extend as tall, and taller apex ends are a no-duck advantage, especially with catenary cut parawings that swoop lower in the center.
Fully extended length: Kelty max 99 inches, Hyout max 79 inches. I will take another 20 inches of stronger pole and max headroom for use with the parawing tarps.
But the shortest adjusted length might be advantageous as side poles with a between-trees ridgeline on a flat tarp.
Shortest length: Kelty min 79.5 inches, Hyout min 62 inches. Five foot tall side poles might be advantageous.
Weight: Not that it matters much to me. The 8 foot tall Keltys weigh 1 lb 11 oz each. The 6.5 foot tall Hyouts weigh 13 oz each.
The review complaints about the Hyout button clips might be easily resolved by replacing them with Mohawk button clips. The pointy foot end plug near the button clip pulls off easily to insert a future Mohawk button clip.
P6210928 by Mike McCrea, on Flickr
http://www.mohawkpaddles.com/product/button-clip-replacement/
That Mohawk button clip replacement would require drilling the Hyout holes a bit wider. But first, after messing with the Hyout poles, a thought. The OEM button clips on the Hyouts are awfully dang tight in the holes. That may be the real problem.
A little benchtop testing shows that the Mohawk buttons clips on paddles have a little slop in the hole, maybe 1 / 32 larger holes than the button.
P6250957 by Mike McCrea, on Flickr
The Hyout button holes have zero slop, the button just barely squeezes through the hole.
Hence another of the review complaints:
Only 4 stars because my old fingers sometimes difficult to press adjustment button
I feel that pain, my thumb hurt as well after a few days of playing with those poles. Actually, those Hyout button clips hurt on the very first day; that was simply a case of too small holes in poles. Which is better than too small pole in hole.
That fierce button clip ouchie not work for me, it sure as hell will not be well received by the Missus.
Hyout pole holes drilled out, for a start, to 1 / 4 inch. If I ever do break the Hyout buttons I will replace them with Mohawks.
P6250959 by Mike McCrea, on Flickr
A little rat tail action to remove any burrs and the OEM buttons in pole holes are now wayyy much easier to adjust, and still hold just fine.
P6250961 by Mike McCrea, on Flickr
Thats it? Seriously, thats the major issue with the Hyout button failures? The manufacturer drilled the freaking button holes too small? Those poles now adjust slick and easy and I can not see why they would be prone to failure, binding or breaking.
The last review complaint about the Hyouts, aligning the button with the holes, was equally easy to resolve. The Keltys have a lateral guide line running parallel to the button for easy hole orientation when adjusting the length. Or, more importantly, for twisting away from the holes when adjusting the length, so the button is not snapping randomly into holes while pulling.
A yardstick and Sharpie line provides the same button aiming line on the Hyout poles. Twist off center, pull to adjust, twist onto the Sharpie line.
P6210931 by Mike McCrea, on Flickr
Last bit of pole outfitting. I like having some reflective tape on the poles for stumblebums at night. Little 3 inch long pieces wrapped around the poles in a couple locations will do.
P6250963 by Mike McCrea, on Flickr
That High-Intensity Reflective Tape is great stuff, and may have been discontinued. I may have to become stingier with what I have left.
P6250965 by Mike McCrea, on Flickr
The Noahs tarp, seam sealed and fully outfitted, in CCS Ridgeline Stuff Bag, with ample ridgeline length, prussicks & clips, Glowire guy lines and stakes, all inside the bag.
P6250966 by Mike McCrea, on Flickr
As side poles for the Missus new strung-between-trees Noahs tarp, so she can achieve her desired hellacious high headroom off a ridgeline, with some side height via light duty poles, the Hyouts will do just fine.
Yeah, she gets a $60 tarp. . . . . and that much again in easy set up accessories.
https://www.amazon.com/HYOUT-Adjust...pID=519kNDMOmJL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
https://www.rei.com/product/845322/rei-co-op-adjustable-tarp-pole-single
OK, there is no contest in quality, strength, durability, materials or construction between the two; the Keltys win in every aspect. I knew that going in, but I bought a set of the $35 HYOUT poles for a look see. With a specific use in mind.
The HYOUTs are 3 / 4 inch 7075 aluminum vs the Kelty 1 inch 6000. The HYOUTS are much bendier when extended full length.
But for lighter duty work the HYOUTs (henceforth un-capitalized Hyout) pack smaller and skinnier, lengthwise when collapsed and narrower in bundled circumference.
Pack length: The Keltys fold down to 29 inches long, the Hyouts to 23.5 inches
Bundle size: Two bundled Kelty poles, 9.5 inch circumference, two Hyout poles, 7 inch circumference.

The Hyouts do not extend as tall, and taller apex ends are a no-duck advantage, especially with catenary cut parawings that swoop lower in the center.
Fully extended length: Kelty max 99 inches, Hyout max 79 inches. I will take another 20 inches of stronger pole and max headroom for use with the parawing tarps.
But the shortest adjusted length might be advantageous as side poles with a between-trees ridgeline on a flat tarp.
Shortest length: Kelty min 79.5 inches, Hyout min 62 inches. Five foot tall side poles might be advantageous.
Weight: Not that it matters much to me. The 8 foot tall Keltys weigh 1 lb 11 oz each. The 6.5 foot tall Hyouts weigh 13 oz each.
The review complaints about the Hyout button clips might be easily resolved by replacing them with Mohawk button clips. The pointy foot end plug near the button clip pulls off easily to insert a future Mohawk button clip.

http://www.mohawkpaddles.com/product/button-clip-replacement/
That Mohawk button clip replacement would require drilling the Hyout holes a bit wider. But first, after messing with the Hyout poles, a thought. The OEM button clips on the Hyouts are awfully dang tight in the holes. That may be the real problem.
A little benchtop testing shows that the Mohawk buttons clips on paddles have a little slop in the hole, maybe 1 / 32 larger holes than the button.

The Hyout button holes have zero slop, the button just barely squeezes through the hole.
Hence another of the review complaints:
Only 4 stars because my old fingers sometimes difficult to press adjustment button
I feel that pain, my thumb hurt as well after a few days of playing with those poles. Actually, those Hyout button clips hurt on the very first day; that was simply a case of too small holes in poles. Which is better than too small pole in hole.
That fierce button clip ouchie not work for me, it sure as hell will not be well received by the Missus.
Hyout pole holes drilled out, for a start, to 1 / 4 inch. If I ever do break the Hyout buttons I will replace them with Mohawks.

A little rat tail action to remove any burrs and the OEM buttons in pole holes are now wayyy much easier to adjust, and still hold just fine.

Thats it? Seriously, thats the major issue with the Hyout button failures? The manufacturer drilled the freaking button holes too small? Those poles now adjust slick and easy and I can not see why they would be prone to failure, binding or breaking.
The last review complaint about the Hyouts, aligning the button with the holes, was equally easy to resolve. The Keltys have a lateral guide line running parallel to the button for easy hole orientation when adjusting the length. Or, more importantly, for twisting away from the holes when adjusting the length, so the button is not snapping randomly into holes while pulling.
A yardstick and Sharpie line provides the same button aiming line on the Hyout poles. Twist off center, pull to adjust, twist onto the Sharpie line.

Last bit of pole outfitting. I like having some reflective tape on the poles for stumblebums at night. Little 3 inch long pieces wrapped around the poles in a couple locations will do.

That High-Intensity Reflective Tape is great stuff, and may have been discontinued. I may have to become stingier with what I have left.

The Noahs tarp, seam sealed and fully outfitted, in CCS Ridgeline Stuff Bag, with ample ridgeline length, prussicks & clips, Glowire guy lines and stakes, all inside the bag.

As side poles for the Missus new strung-between-trees Noahs tarp, so she can achieve her desired hellacious high headroom off a ridgeline, with some side height via light duty poles, the Hyouts will do just fine.
Yeah, she gets a $60 tarp. . . . . and that much again in easy set up accessories.