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Headlamps

Other than in emergency's I use a tiny princeton tec green led that clips to my hat brim. Once my eyes adjust they make plenty of light for anything other than reading or brain surgery. The green lite doesn't spoil you nite vision. I think most people use way to bright lites. Bright lites separate you from nature.

One of my pet peeves is camping companions that use spotlight bright headlamps and shine them in your eyes.

I am 100% with Turtle on this one, especially the pet peeve of people wearing headlamps, inadvertently giving me the “Ve-haf-vays-of-making-you-talk” third degree around the campfire. What the heck do you need with a headlamp while seated around the fire? Even funnier, and less annoying, are folks wearing a bright headlamp while crouched a foot away tending the fire.

Seriously, you need a headlamp to look down and stoke the fire? I’m not sure you really comprehend what all happens when you burn wood.

There is a longstanding anti-headlamp tradition among the folks I camp with. When we are seated around the campfire approaching newbies wearing headlamps are startled by the immediate chorus of “NO LIGHTS!”.

I have one of those little LED clip-on too, but I don’t always wear a brimmed hat, and the alligator clip hurts my nose.

For small amber light I use an old Apache Fingerlight. Similar to what fighter pilots once used, it is smaller than a well-smoked cigarette butt and Velcro’s around a finger. It is bright enough I can walk with it at night on groomed trails and it doesn’t kill my night vision. It is also easy to lose or misplace, and takes specialty batteries. Almost every other battery op thing I carry now uses AAA’s, so I only have to carry one type of spare batteries.

For brighter light I use an ancient Princeton Tec Attitude in a Nite Ize or Jackstrap headband. The Attitude is an LED the size of a cigar, “waterproof to 100 feet”, and takes 4 AAA’s. We bought a family four of them years ago and they are all still going strong.

They are plenty bright enough for me. Sometimes too bright; for illumination control I stick my finger partially over the 1 inch wide Attitude lens to reduce the single-setting to the desired dim glimmer.

The Attitude is a single function light, but the on/off requires a mean-business twist of the lens end, so it can’t be switched on accidentally. I killed the batteries in a too cool new multi-functional, two-lamp, three-setting, two brightness or flashing fancy LED a few weeks ago by stuffing it under some gear. That light has a raised/exposed control button and I managed to accidentally turn it on with the illumination hidden from view.

So nay to any flashlight/headlamp that doesn’t have a positive protected switch. Oft times simple is better. How many times have I actually used the flashing setting on a light? (Answer, once, guiding some night arrivals to the campsite landing, and they could see the come hither campfire glowing in the trees at a distance anyway).

The Nite Ize strap is a simple head strap, with an elastic side-band that holds the Attitude or other small flashlight. The simple Velcro strap is easier to adjust than multiple straps on some headlamps. How did these straps get all twisted? Dammit, I need a flashlight to fix my headlamp straps.

But the real benefit for me is that the flashlight and strap still fit comfortably in my pocket without the excessive bulge of many headlamp designs. Since I use a flashlight only when really needed it lives mostly in my pocket. I would need cargo pockets for many headlamp designs.

If I need the light aimed down (for cooking or etc) I just adjust the position of the strap on the back of my head to angle the light. (The Jackstrap has two flashlight positions, one horizontal and one at a downward angle; I never bother to change the position)

http://www.niteize.com/product/Headband.asp

Even with the Attitude in the headband strap I use it mostly in hand. I much prefer the handheld ability to direct the flashlight beam up and back the trail, or off to the side, without having to aim my head.

what's wrong with Coleman lanterns?

Think I hate headlamps? Don’t even get me started on the ubiquitous Coleman 2-mantle gas lantern.

I am generally anti-regulation, but Coleman lanterns should be required to come with an opaque shade on one side to prevent blinding the not-afraid-of-the-dark folks camped at the site next door. Gawd I hate those things in campground situation.
 
But Mike, not all Coleman lanterns are 2 mantle or even gas for that matter. Don't use any type of lantern canoeing; the lanterns in the trailer are battery Colemans. We do use the old gas lanterns at the farm but it's private property and if someone is offended by the bright light, probability is, they are trespassing! But I do agree with you about citidiots with Colemans in public campgrounds; why do they have to burn wide open, they are adjustable.
 
One of my pet peeves is camping companions that use spotlight bright headlamps and shine them in your eyes.
Turtle
When paddling at night, a bright headlamp will blind you when it shines on your own grip hand during the stroke. If paddling in the fog it is like you are heading into a solid wall of whiteness from the reverse glare. This is the usual case during the early morning hours of paddling the Adirondack Cannonball-90.
 
I'm rarely anywhere near another human (my wife doesn't count) so I don't "share the glare". I hate being blinded by errant beams of daylight past sundown. But I do wear a headlamp at the fire if I'm cooking. Having a nice warm rosy glow all around the outside of the pot does me no good if I can't see in it. But no, I don't like to have it on otherwise; only for trips to the woods or the tent because not every night is lit up by a million stars; it does get cloudy 24/7 sometimes.
Cycling through all the lamp options is my other irritant. That's why I'm hesitant to shop for one with all the bells and whistles. Come to mention it, I came across one with a whistle built into the headband. Perfect. One more irritant for quiet camping in the dark. Shrill whistles and bright flashing flood lamps.
 
The ability to use a canoe gets me to places where I rarely, if ever, encounter anyone else. Especially anyone with a Coleman lantern. However, if in a more public campground area the glare of the adjacent lantern's is to be expected. Sort of comes with the territory. Guess that is why I choose less and less to find myself willing to "campground".

I do respect quality lighting. I look at it as part of my survival equiptment.
My headlamps have a low 4 lumen setting that I use mostly. And a red light at .02 lumens.
Both headlamps tilt down 60 degrees, which if used when around others, does not shine anywhere near their head during a conversation.

At the other end of my choice of settings, my Fenix HP25R has a 1000 lumen choice that has come in handy way more than once.
My wife and I were finishing strapping down our canoe one night after a gorgeous moonlight (and lightless) paddle, when we faintly heard someone screaming help. Threw the boat back in and went looking. We were on a cypress studded impoundment, that takes years to learn to navigate. Found a young couple that had overturned a fiberglass pirogue, that instantly went to the bottom. No lifejackets, and were clinging to a tree. She was only alive and above water, because he was keeping her pinned between himself and the tree. Hypothermia was evident. Having two headlamps with plenty of lumens allowed us to find them, extract them, and then accurately find our way efficiently back to our vehicle. We had to put my lifejacket on him, my wife's on her. Got her into the canoe, strapped my wife's headlamp to a tree limb, with the light pointed up illuminating the tree, and left him in the water with my bowline tying him to the tree using the lifejacket. Got her back to to our vehicle, heater on, and left my wife to get her out of her wet clothes. I went back out to get him and was able to see from a distance my wife's headlamp quiding me back to the tree. Got him and returned back to our vehicle, and headed to the hospital. We got a very sincere Christmas card from them, signed by almost 40 members of their family.

Another occasion was when getting a text that a family member had a medical issue, and was not expected to survive. Packed up in the dark, and paddled out almost 6 miles, relying on my trusty headlamp, and made it to the hospital in time to say our goodbyes.

Ah, yes, and then there are the frogs. Fried, saute'ed, smothered, yummmmm!

I carry multiple Q-beams in my powerboats, and will never be without a quality headlamp in a canoe.

I would rather be prepared.

Perhaps the discussion should be to raise awareness, of how to properly utilize artificial lighting, rather than condemning.

sweeper, back to your original question: Fenix HP25R with 3400mAh battery. Because it works.
 
Thanks everyone, I bought the Fenix HL60R this afternoon and will upgrade to the 3400mAH battery.
 
I have a little primus type backpacking lantern that mimics the Coleman lantern effect so us citidiots can take the comforting hiss and glare into the backcountry. I do use it to play cards & board games in the bug tent whilst car camping and it was small enough to do double duty in the winter tent but have not used it yet. I think the Luci light may be a better option.

I found a coleman light was usually the least offensive light emitting device in the campgrounds. Many RV sites have a more extensive Christmas light display than my house. I am not pure however - when I too had my RV I had funky lights hanging from the awning and light strings on the ground. Bought the snowtrekker when I sold that rig. no regrets - it had its time and place.
 
I sold a 32' 5th Wheel, bought a 14' two room 4 season tent from Cabelas and sold most of my collection of lanterns, 'And that has made all the difference.'
 
This Petzl has been with me for about 10 years and I've found very useful. Model is TIKKA X

Has 2 light levels, each can be changed to red light. The lights can also be adjusted to spot light beam, or diffused to cover wide area. Head lamp can be swiveled about 15 degrees from straight out to a downward tilt.

Runs on three AAA. Handy case for it as well. I recall spending about $50 for it from LLBean.

For task lighting its hard to beat a headlamp, but if you are not mindful your companions will yell at you when you turn to talk to them.

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Yeah, that's the Petzl Tikka I have around here somewhere. I've never changed the batteries. Maybe I don't use it enough?
Not to argue the non-debate over camp lanterns but I find them handy at times. We started with a candle lantern for family trips and finally moved on to a battery one. Light and bright, but not often necessary for a canoe trip and too bulky to pack. Our new collapsable lantern will I hope be the final chapter in our lantern search. Popped out and shining when we need it, stashed in a pack pocket otherwise. It'll probably hang in our tent or vestibule mostly.
We first took along lanterns for family canoe trips (before we splurged on headlamps) for the camp kitchen duties away from the fire, and for blustery wet evenings when we didn't light a campfire. The kids loved some kind of light around which to sit and tell stories. We two don't often have use for a lantern anymore. A headlamp shines a spotlight on any small and temporary task so much better, and we two will often prefer to sit down near the water in the dark. Midnight swims are more magical under the moon and stars. No batteries required.
 
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We've been using Solar Luci Lanterns but I'm seeing a high failure rate in the two years I've own them. I haven't tested the remaining 3 as yet but that may be my next search. I like them, on low they give the table/tarp area a nice soft light.
 
We've been using Solar Luci Lanterns but I'm seeing a high failure rate in the two years I've own them. I haven't tested the remaining 3 as yet but that may be my next search. I like them, on low they give the table/tarp area a nice soft light.

The two Luci Lights I own, one a couple years old and one new, have not yet failed. I have been uber-gentle with them, and the older one probably does not yet have 100 hours use.

If ever there was a company I pray continues to refine, re-engineer and improve their product Luci-light is near the top of the list. Those things are awesome in many applications beyond first world campers and trippers.

I have a niece doing a Peace Corps stint in Africa. Her mother is a flashlight fanatic. I showed her the Luci light a few years ago and she immediately bought several to send over with her daughter. She has since bought several more to send across, and brought some with her on a visit. Half the village now has light in their huts at night, and they slaughtered a goat feast in her honor.

Sometimes the simplest things can make a huge difference. To wit, plastic soda bottle skylights in 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] world tin roofed slum shacks, if only for daytime illumination.

https://phys.org/news/2011-09-bottle-brighten-millions-poor-homes.html
 
Wow, I haven't stirred up such a strong reaction since I complained about unleashed dogs. For a bright emergency/reading headlight I have several Petzl Tikkina 2 bulb 3 aaa battery headlamps. They have 2 light settings. I have had them for years and am very satisfied. I always have one with me when canoe trippong, but seldom use it.
Turtle
 
I've had 2 of my 5 Luci Lights die on me, they don't get uber-g treatment but haven't been tortured either. I don't store them with the rest of my gear in the unheated barn and no where near 100hrs of run time. I had one replaced by Mpower after just one week's use.

I did a test today and the 3 remaining ones are working.

They are great light, Lights.

Thanks for the video link
 
I have a big clunky Stansport, ok, but I lost the lens cover somewhere so the bulb is exposed and I now only use it for power outages here at home. I bring two cheap Cyclops headlamps, one is clip on, the other has a head strap.
Solo, I'm in bed around dusk these days so they seldom get much use.
I use a candle in my canvas wall tent during the fall when it gets dark early, I like the ambiance.
I'm not a fan of bright lights around a campsite/campfire but if others bring them I'm ok with them.
 
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