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ABT

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Hello! I have been reading a few canoe forums the past several months and found myself repeatedly drawn back to this one often enough I thought I should finally join!

A bit about my canoe background and journey below, and I apologize in advance for being long winded:

TL;DR - “I recently got back into canoes and now have an addiction”.

I live in Missouri, only a couple of hours from the Ozark National Scenic Riverways, and have been canoeing the Jack’s Fork or Current river at least once or twice a year with my Dad since I was around 8 years old (for reference I’m now 36). For many years we used an old square stern 17’ MonArk aluminum canoe my Dad bought. Neither of us had any formal training, but we got pretty decent with her just the same. I still have the old battleship, and several of her scars and dents have great memories from my childhood associated with them. In high school I started going a little more with other family and friends in addition to my yearly trip with Dad, usually renting plastic sit on top kayaks. In college I bought my own rec kayak (a 13’ Perception Conduit) and talked Dad into getting one for himself as well (a 12’ Perception). We found them much more maneuverable than the old canoe so that’s what I used for a few years, including most spring breaks where a buddy and I would “float” as we call it, fish, and camp on gravel bars. After college I found I wanted to carry more gear and bought an Old Town Next but continued to paddle it exclusively with a double blade. Unfortunately I found that the Next was not quite as maneuverable as I had hoped, and it sent me swimming a lot more than I expected.

Then in Fall of 2023, it sent me swimming twice on the same trip. As we were finishing up the trip at a low water bridge, getting our boats on the truck (rather soggily in my case) an “old timer” floated up in a canoe he was paddling solo and asked if we could help him portage it over the bridge, to save him unloading all his gear. We of course gave him a hand and in doing so I couldn’t help but think, “man that’s a nice boat”. It was a green Wenonah in Tufweave with an immaculate gel coat, and just struck me as a beautiful, classic looking canoe. Keep in mind composite boats are not very common down here, with the vast majority being poly kayaks, or beat up poly Old Town canoes. All winter and spring I thought about that boat and how cool it was, and how skilled that old fella must’ve been to solo paddle a full size canoe with a single blade. I had to have one, and had to learn what he knew. So I sold the Next and my kayak and started researching canoes. I quickly found out how little knowledge I had! That old aluminum beast I started in had a flat bottom and a keel, hardly ideal for maneuvering on a river (legendary durability notwithstanding). My Old Town Next was a flat bottom as well, with no rocker, straight sides and low sheer. No wonder it wasn’t as maneuverable as I wanted and flipped me when I leaned just a little too far.

I really only looked at Wenonahs at first, and ended up purchasing a Prospector 15 in T-Formex last July that I paddle from the bow seat backwards. I really wanted a composite but 1) couldn’t find one near me, and 2) was led to believe a composite just wouldn’t hold up on my rocky, gravel bottom rivers (although I now think it would have been just fine for my uses). Even so, WOW what a game changer! On my second outing I figured out my J stroke and that was that. Ive gotten better with every trip, and I’ve never had more confidence in a boat. It simply goes wherever I want it to, almost effortlessly, and the stability is incredible. It’s not the fastest, but leaning it over to the rails without fear as it slaloms down the river wherever I want is a blast. It is a flat out joy every time I’m in it, and it’s something I know I can improve my skills with for the rest of my life. I have been on more trips since July than the last seven years combined, and paddled right up to December for the first time ever. Every weekend I just want to be in the canoe. I have tried several unexplored (by me) rivers much closer to home and Dad and I are planning a multi-day trip on the Buffalo in March. I now want other boats for different uses, if only I could afford them all! And I can’t get enough canoe info. I’ve read John Winters, Bill Mason, etc, and watched more hours of YouTube videos than I care to admit - available models, layups, reviews, trips, design, paddle making, you name it.

I broke down earlier this month and ordered a Northstar Polaris in IXP (will pick up at Canoecopia), with a center seat, and already can’t wait for my two boys (currently aged 2 years, and 2 months) to be old enough to take out in it. Next will be a dedicated solo if my wife doesn’t kill me first (apparently two new canoes and several new paddles in one year is cause for concern).

All that to say that this seems like a great community, I still have lots to learn, and I hope to take in all I can here. Sorry for the novel, thanks for reading.



-ABT
 
Welcome to the Forum. It sounds like you will like it here.

Down here in South Carolina we are in the same situation when it comes to composite canoes; there are just not that many around. Keep an eye out on Craigslist or Facebook marketplace and you may find that adding a new canoe or two to your collection will not be too expensive. The biggest problem when another canoe show up is that my wife rolls her eyes and says "where are you going to put this one?". I think I may have helped matters when I found a 14 lb. Hornbeck 10 1/2' canoe for $450 on Craigslist. It became her boat very quickly.
 
ABT, welcome to site membership! Feel free to ask any questions and to post messages, photos and videos, and to start threads, in our many forums. Please read Welcome to CanoeTripping and Site Rules! Many of the site's technical features are explained in Features: Help and How-To Running Thread. We look forward to your participation in our canoe community.

I still have the old battleship

ended up purchasing a Prospector 15 in T-Formex last July

I broke down earlier this month and ordered a Northstar Polaris in IXP

I’m now 36

I was 36 when I rented a canoe on the Big River in Mendocino, California, for my wife, then two young kids and myself—and immediately got re-hooked on my childhood, teen and college love of canoeing in Maine.

44 years later → 20 open canoes, one decked canoe (C-1), one Hawaiian outrigger canoe, and three sea kayaks, of which I still have all except four of the open canoes.

And you already have three times the canoes I had at age 36!

All in all, it's a better and healthier addiction than smoking, booze or carbohydrates.
 
Welcome, ABT
I have spent a lifetime paddling, camping, hiking in the Adirondacks.
I see your area has similar regulations and certainly has beautiful water and scenery.
Great to hear that you want the kids to be exposed too...I have a mountain of fond memories of paddling and camping when my kids were young.

As Gamma mentioned upthread, you may want to consider building your own canoes, it's waaay easier than you might think, and can be extremely rewarding, not just for your wallet.
Looking forward to see some trip reports and pics from your travels.
 
PS: wife might take it easier if you built your own boats and paddles (fair warning: that can become an obsession in itself)
One of these days I may try building one. I’ve had a couple of large woodworking projects in the last few years that were pretty successful but a boat is a little intimidating, especially since sanding is usually my least favorite part and they appear to require an awful lot. I’m sure it would be rewarding though and would definitely be an easier sell to the wife!
 
I think I may have helped matters when I found a 14 lb. Hornbeck 10 1/2' canoe for $450 on Craigslist. It became her boat very quickly.
I am definitely on the lookout for a boat for her. She was pregnant when I really got back into this and not up for going with me, but has enjoyed a couple of short trips in the past and is open to going more, especially if it’s something we can do with the boys as they get older. I’m hoping this Spring she’ll get at least a couple day trips in with me and start to want her own boat.
 
As Gamma mentioned upthread, you may want to consider building your own canoes, it's waaay easier than you might think, and can be extremely rewarding, not just for your wallet.
Hmm sounds like I should look into it a bit more if that’s the case. I’ve seen a couple videos that looked like a pretty time consuming endeavor but I’ll spend some time looking through some build threads a little more seriously. Thanks!
 
...sanding is usually my least favorite part and they appear to require an awful lot.
Sanding is the sucky part for sure but you really don't have to do much. I barely sanded my first at all and it works fine. I've sanded my current build a lot more because I want it to look better... like most things in life: it's a balance between time, effort and expectations.

If you ever want to try it, post progress updates, questions, etc and I think you'll be amazed at the amount of support that you'll find here.
 
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