What can you tell me...

[Canotrouge]

What can you tell me about these guys?? http://www.mtcanoes.com/gallery/

 

[sweeper]

TOO much rocker for me.

 

[yellowcanoe]

Not a thing but I applaud small scale canoe makers. Dave Curtis and Harold Deal at Hemlock Canoe or John Kazimerczyk of Millbrook boats probably can . Some of those boats look a lot like Harold's Shaman.. Not saying the designs were "stolen" but oftentimes there is an inspiration.

Dang those shouldered tumblehomes are so Hemlock! But its carried on way fore and aft.

Those are not Royalex.. Composite! I see Steve Scarborough had a hand in them.. Its a small world in canoe design. For sure Harold knows Steve

 

[Canotrouge]

Not a thing but I applaud small scale canoe makers. Dave Curtis and Harold Deal at Hemlock Canoe or John Kazimerczyk of Millbrook boats probably can . Some of those boats look a lot like Harold's Shaman.. Not saying the designs were "stolen" but oftentimes there is an inspiration.

Dang those shouldered tumblehomes are so Hemlock! But its carried on way fore and aft.

Those are not Royalex.. Composite! I see Steve Scarborough had a hand in them.. Its a small world in canoe design. For sure Harold knows Steve

Ok these are composites boats, of the classic Ocoee and Caption once made out of RX by Dagger, design by Franky Hubbards(Ocoee) and Steve Scarborough(Caption). Those designs are at least from the 80's(mid 90's read below) and some of the most popular ones, Especially the Ocoee!

I sent them a message to have more info, and I also contacted Kaz to see what he has to say!

Echo paddles out of Ontario makes(Composites Creation actually make the boat for him) the Ocoee and the Starburst in composites!!

 

[pblanc]

I had not heard of this maker before.

The Ocoee and the Caption were actually mid-1990s boats, both introduced by Dagger in 1994, I believe. The Ocoee was the product of an evolution that began with Frankie Hubbard's "Edge" (which was made in various sizes), which was the inspiration for the Vipers, which eventually morphed into the Ocoee. After Dagger got out of the canoe business, Bell molded the Ocoee, and later Nova Craft, until the demise of Royalex. Mad River molded the Caption, likewise till the demise of Roylalex.

Nova Craft also makes a composite Ocoee in their TuffStuff layup. This is the first I have heard of a composite version of the Caption.

 

[Canotrouge]

I had not heard of this maker before.

The Ocoee and the Caption were actually mid-1990s boats, both introduced by Dagger in 1994, I believe. The Ocoee was the product of an evolution that began with Frankie Hubbard's "Edge" (which was made in various sizes), which was the inspiration for the Vipers, which eventually morphed into the Ocoee. After Dagger got out of the canoe business, Bell molded the Ocoee, and later Nova Craft, until the demise of Royalex. Mad River molded the Caption, likewise till the demise of Roylalex.

Nova Craft also makes a composite Ocoee in their TuffStuff layup. This is the first I have heard of a composite version of the Caption.

Thank you for getting things right date wise!! So Kaz told me that they have been out for 2-3 years, and that they might be at national this summer at ValleyField Quebec... I will be going there for a day to visit with Kaz and look at a few things, maybe try one of there boats if they are there!

 

[Canotrouge]

David,
Thanks for your interest in our boats! Let us know if we can answer any further questions. We offer two lay up options for the FH (ocoee) race and river runner and one layup option for the SS(Caption). All layups are constructed using UV inhibited epoxy. Here is the specs on the FH:


[h=1] River Runner Layup Race Layup[/h] Raw Hull : 23 lb. 18 lb.
With gunwales and end decks: 33 lb. +/- 2 lb. 28 lb. +/- 2 lb.

• Price w/gunwales and decks: $1,700 $1,800
• Price adding complete outfitting: $2,100 $2,200

• 3 different widths available , 22", 23 1/2", and 24"
• Single pigment color option per listed price and is custom per order, we also offer two and three color options. Price varies depending upon color scheme.
• Carbon basalt end plates
• Composite splash plate for the bow. Weight: 1 lb. It is an additional $125
• Grab loops
• White ash triple oiled gunwales, pre-assembly
• Stainless steel hardware
• Vacuum bag construction

And here is the specs on the SS (Caption)

[h=1]River Runner Layup[/h]

( lighter lay ups available upon request, price may vary)​

Raw Hull : 34 lb. With gunwales and decks: 44 lb. +/- 3 lb.

• Price with gunwales and end decks: $2,300
• Price with complete tandem outfitting: $2,850
• Price with complete triple saddle outfitting: $3,050 (center saddle does not have foot braces)
• Composite bow and stern splash plate: $125 each
• Single pigment color option per listed price and is custom per order, we also offer two and three color options. Price varies depending upon color scheme.
• Grab loops
• White ash triple-oiled gunwales, pre assembly
• Stainless steel hardware
• Vacuum bag construction

Also, we offer an electric bilge pump set up installed for $150. And a note on our outfitting, it is made using military grade side releases, saddles include 12” adjustable foot braces (yakima style now made by Mohawk Canoes) and our standard saddle height is 8” standard, but we can custom make them to your height if different. We also are a dealer of Mohawk float bags.

Our website is nearly complete and all this info and more would have been on there so sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks again for the interest! Feel free to call if you’d like as well.