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Oswegatchic & Big/Little Shallow NY Nov 2015

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Figured on saving you from reading so much stuff and me from typing. All I can say was WOW! This was my 3rd time on the Os. The first time we paddled to Five Ponds Trail and hiked in and stayed at lean to on Big Shallow for 2 nights. Last year I went back with a buddy and we paddled up to the Falls and saw a lot of bear scat. This time the goal was to portage the Five Ponds Trail and paddle/fish Big and Little Shallow. Well looking at the pics you can see what we did.

First the paddle from Inlet to the trail was rain on and off and wind, wind and wind. Then during the hike more rain and wind, on and off. Should have done the stream crossing two times, one with pack only and then the boat, nope but I was lucky, only one wet foot. Then app another 45 min to the lean to and Big Shallow. After sucking up some oxygen and eating app 2000 calories it was time to sleep, at ummm 6:30. It was dark and temps were pretty good for an early November.

Next morning we carried food and boats on trail to Little Shallow. Take a few lean to pics and paddle on the pond to fish. Me being a newbi with my new fishing license catch 2 tiny fish and with my friends help get the hook out and throw them back. My buddy was a great guide and let me do all the catching while he turned red each time I yelled "fish on!" He proceeded to point me far away from my lucky spot towards the other end of the pond. We left there and then portaged back through the many different forest zones, so beautiful was each one.

Now back at Big Shallow we collect wood and decide on a sunset paddle towards the back of the pond. Once we get there we notice a second tier of water, another gem created by the beavers. We get on top and paddle around looking at the hut and other cool sites. Neither of us notice but it started to get really dark fast and then the rain came down, hard and fast. As we get ready to climb over the dam to get back to the pond level the rain started to "bounce" and "ping" off our clothing and boats, louder and harder. A HAIL STORM! Holy cow it was coming down pretty fast. Smiling and taking pictures I didn't realize that we were standing on top of a beaver dam and things could take a turn for the worse. For some reason I was thinking about hail and lightning. We each made our own way off the dam and back into our boats when the hail started to slow down and it turned back into a light rain. In 5 minutes we were back at the lean to getting changed and was able to get our campfire started. Once again another 2000 calories was gobbled up, mostly cheese Kaysadeas with and without bacon. I made a new meal, tuna melt. The rain stopped but the wind just kept blowing the smoke into the lean to. My eyes were starting to tear and puff up, yuk. That night the temps probably dropped into upper 20's or low 30's, all ok we were geared up.

In the am we packed up and I took a beaver stick and inserted it into a foam roll and was able to balance the Hornbeck on it instead of my head on the way in, much much better. the hike out wasn't so bad, over the stream this time 2 times for safety reasons. But 3/4 way through the hike I was starting to feel a bit tired, the marsg just never seemed to end on our left side. We get back to the Os and meet 2 young students paddling up stream to the falls and beyond. Ahh to be strong and have good knees. We took our time paddling back to the car, app 4 plus hours and packed up. Then the tough part came, 360 miles back home! waaaaa! Arrived home at 12:15 am this morning and went back to teaching at 8:10 this morning. Well worth it! Where to next you ask? Suggestions are welcome. Be safe and well, David
 
Not to sure if I could post that trip because I technically didn't paddle a canoe, it was a Hornbeck which is considered a pack boat. But my friend was paddling an Old Town Pack which I might say held quit a bit of gear and his boat turned the million corners mush better that my boat. Once again it looks like I'm after another boat.
 
A pack canoe historically IS the earliest Adirondack open canoe, dating from the 1870's. The older Hornbecks do not turn as easily as the newer better designed ones; because of their tucked in cheeks at the end, effectively making each end a skeg.

I have not posted any of my Newfoundland pix as I used a sea canoe ( which is partially decked) and my companion a kayak. No matter; I need not publicize everything.

I liked your use of a beaver stick.
 
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Now that's a nice trip, long way from home too. I enjoyed your pics and the vids, your positive attitude is infectious, you make a good tripping partner imo, lotta fun. Good trip and thanks for sharing,

All smiles! Looks like canoes to me?

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A pack canoe historically IS the earliest Adirondack open canoe, dating from the 1870's. The older Hornbecks do not turn as easily as the newer better designed ones; because of their tucked in cheeks at the end, effectively making each end a skeg.
I have the very first hybrid carbon/kevlar Hornbeck canoe that Pete built for sale. Its hull is of the older design, but it will easily turn if you strongly heel it over toward the outside of the turn and give it an aggressive stroke or two. Once the stern "skeg" breaks lock with the water with a gurgling sound it will almost on its own easily tightly spin around on the curvy Oswegatchie without losing much forward momentum. But it is more difficult to do when fully loaded.
 
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Coldfeet we can help you shop. There are a number of pack canoe makers now in the Adirondacks. Slipstream. Adirondack Canoe Co and Placid also are there. Swift and Savage River also include them in their lineup. Some with tumblehome lend themselves nicely to single blading which is useful on the O or in the Pine Barrens or the mangroves of Florida
 
Real nice trip coldfeet, fun videos and great photos. Now I see the attraction to the Os, beautiful country.
 
Looks like a great trip. I experienced similar conditions there a couple of years ago in October so I guess it's not to be unexpected; especially this time of year. Thanks for sharing your adventure.

That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well.

snapper
 
Thanks Robin, tough to not have a positive attitude out there, must be the fresh air. Metamorphoses people into nice fun folks. Think more people should get out there and relax. Everyone I've met over the years has been awesome. Another reason why I'm getting more involved in clubs to give back and learn from others. I do read as many post here to pick up some pointers.

YC, this sounds crazy but I've been up to the ADK 3 times since August and have used 3 different boats. Monarch, Souris tandem with my wife and the Hornbeck. My Placid RF is sitting in the garage not happy with me, crazy!

yknpdlr - I actually had some guts and started leaning the boat over a bit during some turns to make it easier, it did work a bit. Until I leaned a bit to much and "holy cr*p" and recovered before going over. I also seem more comfortable leaning to the right and never on the left side, interesting.

Snapper - next time I visit Ommegang (sp?) and the hall of fame I will give you notice and hang out.
 
Coldfeet - Look forward to meeting up with you. There are some other adult beverage type places in the area to visit as well. And, if the weather is cooperative, we can get a couple of boats out of our barn and hit a stretch of the Susquehanna if you're so inclined.

Take care and until next time...be well.

snapper
 
I actually had some guts and started leaning the boat over a bit during some turns to make it easier, it did work a bit. Until I leaned a bit to much and "holy cr*p" and recovered before going over. I also seem more comfortable leaning to the right and never on the left side, interesting.

There is a missing element here. You heel the boat. This means that YOU stay parallel to upright tree trunks and the boat is tilted. You are not tilted ( unless a adult beverage has been imbibed .The Cardinal rule is nose over navel. Whether sitting or kneeling. If you can't drop a plumb line from your nose and hit your navel things are iffy.. And very iffy when your head strays over the boundaries of the gunwale.

Once I was teaching edging ( the kayak term for heeling) and explained to a Merchant Mariner(captain no less) to lean... that was not what I should have said. I learned a few seafaring words that day.
 
I have so much to learn. I should have been taking classes over the years. Instead I bought a few boats and figured I could learn while just doing it, naaa.
Next Spring I hope to take, no I will take a few classes.

I like the RF and Monarch pic, I did pick up a bent shaft for the RF but I haven't really gone on yet with it, maybe in a few weeks. Drysuit weather is here.

Snapper, that would be nice. Be well
 
I have not posted any of my Newfoundland pix as I used a sea canoe ( which is partially decked) and my companion a kayak. No matter; I need not publicize everything.
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Please do share your pictures, must have been some amazing country and few get a chance to see it.

I don't know much about sea canoes but they are welcome here, and if any canoe tripper here occasionally takes a trip with their kayak to a place canoes can go, or even if they can't go there, it's all good. Even shop talk about kayaks by a canoe person is welcome.
 
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