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Oopsie moments, or at least almost "oopsie"?

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A post in a thread several days back made me think of an image or two in this slide sequence one of the other participants took of my wife and I on the Rogue River in Southwest Oregon years back (Late June, 2006), one of the few runs on that river that we paddled together OC2. I no longer remember the thread or which post brought up the memory, so I'll just start another thread and see if anyone else wants to add their own "OOPS" moments to it. It may have been on tying bags in for whitewater vs flatwater, but no longer sure. Could have been a tangent in a thread. Anyway . . .

This river section is the standard "wilderness run" on the Wild and Scenic stretch from Graves Creek to Foster Bar, which I've mentioned in other posts here. This run pictured is of the fish ladder "sneak route" around Rainie Falls, which is reached the first day of this run, being as it's only about a mile and a half or two below the put-in. Rainie Falls is normally about a 6-foot or more drop on the left side and usually into a big hole at the bottom. Height and intensity vary with water level. There's the "middle chute" to the right of the falls itself, a little less intense than the main falls, but very narrow, especially for rafts. The fish ladder way over on river right was blasted by a pioneering river runner back in the early 1900s to make the river navigable for his guided fishing trips. He also dynamited parts of Blossom Bar Rapids downstream and likely at least a few other drops between.

There are nine images here, and I'll just post them all, though some of the early ones are probably a bit redundant and not needed. The photographer is standing on river right down at the bottom of the narrow run. The opposite bank seen in the pics here is actually an island and "middle chute" and the main falls runs are on the other side of the island, obscured in thse images. Sorry, I can't find a pic of either of them. You can find YouTube vids online of many runs of all three of these routes if interested.

Here are the first three shots in the sequence. The run looks narrow and rocky and it is up top. I thought we were at a higher than normal water level, like 6,000 cfs or higher, but the historical reading of the Agness gauge near the takeout indicates it was between 3600 and 3700 CFS during our run. It can get below 2,000 CFS in the late summer before the winter rains kick in, and has been really high at times in the past. For instance, the gauge hit 129,000 CFS in December, 6 months before our run, and in December 1964, a huge storm that hit much of the West Coast sent the guage up to 290,000 CFS. Really high! My own flow estimation firmware between the ears is rusty these days, but thinks you're looking at maybe 250-300 CFS maximum in the channel here. Anyway:

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Okay, to there it was just rock picking on the way down, and I was trying to get even farther left than I was. Looks like I'm way left in this next image, but I'm not as far over as I want to be, as here it starts to get a bit dicey.

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This next pic below is where my wife is starting to wonder about the wisdom of agreeing to the run of this drop. Hey, babe, there's worse downstream! She actually knows that, as she's been on the run before in rafts several times. I have usually paddled this run OC1.

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This next pic is where she is figuring out she might not want to be here.

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Our boat here, reasonably heavily loaded with gear already, is now at least half full of water. Notice that the sternman (yours truly) is ready to slap a good low brace. I really wish we were a bit left more as we'd have missed most of the hole(s).

This next image is priceless!

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You'll notice above that she really doesn't want to be here now. But the lumps are almost over, mostly just a fast short bouncy runout from here, which is good as we're essentially full of water.

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It doesn't look like the end of the action in the above or next image, but it is smooth right after this one, though I don't have a pic of it.

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Just bouncy, and smooth water after this one. My end of the canoe doesn't look full, but we did fill it the rest of the way here in these little waves as our freeboard is next to nothing now. The gunnels amidships were under the water soon after this. We paddled the boat to shore (all of 6 feet away?), so close that the photographer couldn't get the whole boat into the frame for the above picture. Just dumped it out and ready to go again.

The boat is a Royalex Dagger Legend 17, a real pig (not only my opinion). We borrowed it for the run to just try it out and hated it. Heavy and real wet in our opinion. We wished we'd have brought the Venture 17 instead (also a Royalex Dagger), but we didn't. We never did flip the boat on the whole run, but were quite lucky in a couple of spots.

That was an "almost oopsie" moment for us. We came through with our upper bodies dry, but not lower bodies. We have gear tied down into the boat, not all of it tight to the floor. There are also air bags in the ends. We don't travel light. We consider trips like this a vacation, not a lesson in deprivation.

Anyone got oops moments of their own to add to this thread?
 
I’ve got lots, but no pictures, and they are faded into the fragmented storage portions of my bean cloud. Falls are the worst, usually after going against my better judgement. I do remember getting onto some windy lakes with a poorly trimmed load. Fishtail surfing in a vicious tail wind in remote Ontario comes to mind. Finally caught a sheltered area to wait out the wind. Relief!
 
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Trying to pull a canoe up a small drop. Stern got hung up on a rock slightly sideways and I couldn't push it back to restart. Water was nearly rushing over the gunwale. I couldn't lift the bow any higher. Footing was on the edge of a drop so I couldn't pull it up farther. I gave one last heave to try and dislodge it, failed, water rushed into the boat, and I watched it float away down the river. Thankfully I was wearing my lifejacket so I was able to swim for retrieval.

Alan
 
That's a pretty steep drop, especially with a loaded boat. It's a good thing you had the floatation and had your stuff tied in. It looks like it worked in that situation.
A post in a thread several days back made me think of an image or two in this slide sequence one of the other participants took of my wife and I on the Rogue River in Southwest Oregon years back (Late June, 2006), one of the few runs on that river that we paddled together OC2. I no longer remember the thread or which post brought up the memory, so I'll just start another thread and see if anyone else wants to add their own "OOPS" moments to it. It may have been on tying bags in for whitewater vs flatwater, but no longer sure. Could have been a tangent in a thread. Anyway . . .

This river section is the standard "wilderness run" on the Wild and Scenic stretch from Graves Creek to Foster Bar, which I've mentioned in other posts here. This run pictured is of the fish ladder "sneak route" around Rainie Falls, which is reached the first day of this run, being as it's only about a mile and a half or two below the put-in. Rainie Falls is normally about a 6-foot or more drop on the left side and usually into a big hole at the bottom. Height and intensity vary with water level. There's the "middle chute" to the right of the falls itself, a little less intense than the main falls, but very narrow, especially for rafts. The fish ladder way over on river right was blasted by a pioneering river runner back in the early 1900s to make the river navigable for his guided fishing trips. He also dynamited parts of Blossom Bar Rapids downstream and likely at least a few other drops between.

There are nine images here, and I'll just post them all, though some of the early ones are probably a bit redundant and not needed. The photographer is standing on river right down at the bottom of the narrow run. The opposite bank seen in the pics here is actually an island and "middle chute" and the main falls runs are on the other side of the island, obscured in thse images. Sorry, I can't find a pic of either of them. You can find YouTube vids online of many runs of all three of these routes if interested.

Here are the first three shots in the sequence. The run looks narrow and rocky and it is up top. I thought we were at a higher than normal water level, like 6,000 cfs or higher, but the historical reading of the Agness gauge near the takeout indicates it was between 3600 and 3700 CFS during our run. It can get below 2,000 CFS in the late summer before the winter rains kick in, and has been really high at times in the past. For instance, the gauge hit 129,000 CFS in December, 6 months before our run, and in December 1964, a huge storm that hit much of the West Coast sent the guage up to 290,000 CFS. Really high! My own flow estimation firmware between the ears is rusty these days, but thinks you're looking at maybe 250-300 CFS maximum in the channel here. Anyway:

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Okay, to there it was just rock picking on the way down, and I was trying to get even farther left than I was. Looks like I'm way left in this next image, but I'm not as far over as I want to be, as here it starts to get a bit dicey.

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This next pic below is where my wife is starting to wonder about the wisdom of agreeing to the run of this drop. Hey, babe, there's worse downstream! She actually knows that, as she's been on the run before in rafts several times. I have usually paddled this run OC1.

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This next pic is where she is figuring out she might not want to be here.

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Our boat here, reasonably heavily loaded with gear already, is now at least half full of water. Notice that the sternman (yours truly) is ready to slap a good low brace. I really wish we were a bit left more as we'd have missed most of the hole(s).

This next image is priceless!

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You'll notice above that she really doesn't want to be here now. But the lumps are almost over, mostly just a fast short bouncy runout from here, which is good as we're essentially full of water.

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It doesn't look like the end of the action in the above or next image, but it is smooth right after this one, though I don't have a pic of it.

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Just bouncy, and smooth water after this one. My end of the canoe doesn't look full, but we did fill it the rest of the way here in these little waves as our freeboard is next to nothing now. The gunnels amidships were under the water soon after this. We paddled the boat to shore (all of 6 feet away?), so close that the photographer couldn't get the whole boat into the frame for the above picture. Just dumped it out and ready to go again.

The boat is a Royalex Dagger Legend 17, a real pig (not only my opinion). We borrowed it for the run to just try it out and hated it. Heavy and real wet in our opinion. We wished we'd have brought the Venture 17 instead (also a Royalex Dagger), but we didn't. We never did flip the boat on the whole run, but were quite lucky in a couple of spots.

That was an "almost oopsie" moment for us. We came through with our upper bodies dry, but not lower bodies. We have gear tied down into the boat, not all of it tight to the floor. There are also air bags in the ends. We don't travel light. We consider trips like this a vacation, not a lesson in deprivation.

Anyone got oops moments of their own to add to this thread?
 
That's a pretty steep drop, especially with a loaded boat. It's a good thing you had the floatation and had your stuff tied in. It looks like it worked in that situation.
Thanks Al and others. Yup, it did work just enough. There are other rapids downstream where we had other close calls, but not as close as this one. I could upload the sequence of Blossom Bar but they aren't anywhere near as intense looking. The water was up enough that the one eddy we were supposed to catch on the way down was surging a foot or more and we slipped backwards out the bottom end of it as we just couldn't stay in it. We did get the boat turned around as it's much wider open below there, some waves and holes to avoid, but room to navigate. We actually ran that drop dry, just harrowing backwards and sideways out of that surging eddy.

As Black Fly says, I/we have lots of other oops moments without pics. On the John Day here in Oregon years back, I loaded the boat with a bad list to one side, and we pulled over in an eddy to correct it. Still in the boat I got two packs untied so we could switch them, which should about correct the imbalance, and at the count of three, my wife and I would lift and switch them. Well, we weren't exactly on count. Don't remember who lifted first and then second but it doesn't matter, one side of the boat went down, dipped a gunnel for some water, then the other gunnel went under and stayed under. Would have been hilarious to watch if anyone was there, but the rest of the group (one raft, a coupl of inflatable kayaks) was ahead of us by then. The eddy was about waist deep, and we both stood up laughing our butts off. We got the boat emptied, pack switch done, I tied the packs inm and we pushed off wet.

Another trip on the lower Green in Utah, we were camped at Soda Springs Canyon (not a good place to camp, so not recommended) and the wind was howling upstream when we got up. We decided to go anyway as we were only polanning on paddling a few miles, about five, and we ought to be able to make that. Well, we did, but it took a loooooong time. We were windferried all over the river, bouncing several times off both banks before getting to our campsite. Again, it would have been funny for anyone watching. Somewhere on another thread in this site I mention the same thing happening to us upstream on another run, getting from the Ruby Ranch boat launch down to Trin Alcove, our first campsite.

Another run on the Buffalo River in Arkansas way back when (in 1973) the river came up to huge flood while we were on the water and we paddled on out in that, which we shouldn't have done. We did fine anyway. That oops situation involved a swim like Alan's. I may have uploaded that story to this site earlier. I'll have to check. I don't see it on a quick search, so I'll look more closesly later and add that story to this thread if I don't find it. Don't have pics, long before I ever owned a camera. There are lots of other situations. One time canoeing late '60s in Quetico, I think our third trip there, we were paddling along in a lake, and ran up on a stump submerged enough that we didn't see it. Deep water all around and several boatlengths from any shore, so we couldn't get out of the boat, and anything we did just made us turn circles. We finally got off of it, I think backpaddling off, but it must have taken 15 minutes or more of work to do it. We were in a borrowed 17 foot Grumman standard that trip. If I can come up with others, I'll try to add short descriptions like these.
 
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