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Manitoba paddlers. Your gov't at work
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couple things come to mind here...
1) Some of the Trump hating enviro whacko's in the US made good on their promise to leave the US if Trump was elected and managed to find gainful employment in Manitoba.
2) This is a ripe opportunity for some enterprising entrepreneur to invent canoe condoms as a safe responsible way to avoid the spread of water born organisms from one body of water to another. The canoe condom also shows great promise to mitigate the negative effects of scratches on the bottom of canoes as well. The potential for an offshoot industry to create aesthetic canoe condom disposal containers on each of end of appropriate portage trails is quite likely too.
That said, we've had this sort of thing in the states for quite some time to mitigate spread of invasive species in our water ways, although they are polite PSA's and not enforced legally anywhere that I'm aware of.
1) Some of the Trump hating enviro whacko's in the US made good on their promise to leave the US if Trump was elected and managed to find gainful employment in Manitoba.
2) This is a ripe opportunity for some enterprising entrepreneur to invent canoe condoms as a safe responsible way to avoid the spread of water born organisms from one body of water to another. The canoe condom also shows great promise to mitigate the negative effects of scratches on the bottom of canoes as well. The potential for an offshoot industry to create aesthetic canoe condom disposal containers on each of end of appropriate portage trails is quite likely too.
That said, we've had this sort of thing in the states for quite some time to mitigate spread of invasive species in our water ways, although they are polite PSA's and not enforced legally anywhere that I'm aware of.
Upon going further in the actual news and seeing what decontamination is required, I wonder how boaters plan to "immerse" their watercraft in the solutions prescribed for 4 hours.
The wild and wonderful PC government at your service. Same ones who promised to improve health care and are closing emergency rooms.
The wild and wonderful PC government at your service. Same ones who promised to improve health care and are closing emergency rooms.
To address Deerfly. Yes invasive species inspections are enforced in Maine. At least on the most used lakes
Inspectors there every weekend during the summer checking for required stickers and plant fragments
However regs only apply to power and sailboats
Washing stations are at some lakes they are just cold water no bleach.
Now it's likely each area has its own regs as it's got its own invasives
Inspectors there every weekend during the summer checking for required stickers and plant fragments
However regs only apply to power and sailboats
Washing stations are at some lakes they are just cold water no bleach.
Now it's likely each area has its own regs as it's got its own invasives
Fighting invasive species should not be taken lightly. Would really suck to see the whole walleye population wiped out of your favourite lake because of somebody not cleaning the bilge water out of their boat.
Also enforced in Minnesota, though the cleaning requirements are not as thorough. My family is sort of considering something like this for the fishing boat.
Reading a little closer, it seems that the more interesting decontamination solutions are for items that cannot be thoroughly dried.
For a canoe, or other smooth-sided watercraft, a quick scrub with a washcloth to get rid of slime and any small hitchikers, and then a thorough rub down with some cheap terry towels from the local mall wart or equivalent until bone dry should be good.
Reading a little closer, it seems that the more interesting decontamination solutions are for items that cannot be thoroughly dried.
For a canoe, or other smooth-sided watercraft, a quick scrub with a washcloth to get rid of slime and any small hitchikers, and then a thorough rub down with some cheap terry towels from the local mall wart or equivalent until bone dry should be good.
The stricter rules of drain, decontaminate and dry apply to control areas.
https://www.gov.mb.ca/waterstewardship/stopais/help/control_zone.html
Otherwise it seems simpler conscientious rules of drying gear only applies.
With the list of invasive species growing longer every year it seems only practical that we all do our part.
https://www.gov.mb.ca/waterstewardship/stopais/help/control_zone.html
Otherwise it seems simpler conscientious rules of drying gear only applies.
With the list of invasive species growing longer every year it seems only practical that we all do our part.
It seems odd that canoes are lumped in with power boats. That's where I find the reasoning shaky.
Having spent a couple of years on my home lake with my head stuck in a clear bottomed bucket patrolling for invasive plants. I don't underestimate the need to be vigilant
Having spent a couple of years on my home lake with my head stuck in a clear bottomed bucket patrolling for invasive plants. I don't underestimate the need to be vigilant
Ducks also need to be drained, dried and decontaminated... well duh. danged dirty ducks doing damage and destruction (enough Ds in there for ya?).
Still have not seen any rock snot in this area.
PS... the news reports on "Fire and Fury" I'm not entirely sure what that's about, maybe on the upcoming duck hunting this fall. Anyway, whatever, I'm bringing binoculars.
http://www.ebd.csic.es/andy/Ecography09.pdf
Still have not seen any rock snot in this area.
PS... the news reports on "Fire and Fury" I'm not entirely sure what that's about, maybe on the upcoming duck hunting this fall. Anyway, whatever, I'm bringing binoculars.
http://www.ebd.csic.es/andy/Ecography09.pdf
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I'm sure you're a good steward of the wild wherever you paddle YC, and many more like you contributing to this forum. Like other issues affecting paddlers (water safety, leave no trace...) education is vital. Some of this is news to me. I'm sure there are many who've never encountered some of these regs before. Are the funds (and will) available to post regs at every access in every control area? Any ad campaigns to spread the word? Probably no to these questions. And then there's enforcement. And more questions.
Some of the regs are simply obvious, but seeing the trashy behaviour in the front and backcountry no reg is too simple and obvious. I bookmarked some online sites listing invasive species and controls. I have some learnin' to do.
On a bike ride last weekend we passed some clear cutting and brown dead swathes of once lush vegetation. The county's approach to battling Emerald Ash Borer and Giant Hogweed. Scanning the news when we got home I read that alien freshwater jellyfish are appearing in the Great Lakes, after first arriving in the 70's. That I didn't know. One more reason to read up on this issue.
Some of the regs are simply obvious, but seeing the trashy behaviour in the front and backcountry no reg is too simple and obvious. I bookmarked some online sites listing invasive species and controls. I have some learnin' to do.
On a bike ride last weekend we passed some clear cutting and brown dead swathes of once lush vegetation. The county's approach to battling Emerald Ash Borer and Giant Hogweed. Scanning the news when we got home I read that alien freshwater jellyfish are appearing in the Great Lakes, after first arriving in the 70's. That I didn't know. One more reason to read up on this issue.
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It's not really that difficult. For canoeing there is no need to decontam your boat for portages. Its the same body of water after all. Unless you are moving watersheds. For drying, I would suspect that 100 km/hr for 5 min might do the trick. Hot sunshine works.
Most powerbboats are required to rinse off and do a walk around check for plants etc before heading away from the water they were in. Again, not a big deal. I suspect the biggest culprit has been bilges full of water and bait buckets. Hence the specific mention.
You cannot be too careful and this is not radical nut cases running amok....it is careful management of a precious resource that is being much more frequently accessed. In this case an ounce of prevention is the only cure. Once the genie is out of the bottle it is impossible to put back in.
Christy
Most powerbboats are required to rinse off and do a walk around check for plants etc before heading away from the water they were in. Again, not a big deal. I suspect the biggest culprit has been bilges full of water and bait buckets. Hence the specific mention.
You cannot be too careful and this is not radical nut cases running amok....it is careful management of a precious resource that is being much more frequently accessed. In this case an ounce of prevention is the only cure. Once the genie is out of the bottle it is impossible to put back in.
Christy
Iskweo,
Baitfish use is banned in Manitoba, except in certain areas IIRC... fuzzy memory about what the exceptions are. Quebec again IIRC has banned baitfish use outright and if anglers are caught using baitfish on the Quebec side of the border, they will be charged... if there's enough enforcement staff to patrol and investigate.
Ontario, OTOH still allows it, maybe because it brings in $20 million into local economies. Baitfish are outlawed in some protected areas like Algonquin park but there are some still caught baitfishing in there, and the spread of exotic species is thought to be due to road access and bait buckets.
The obvious solution if government is serious about the problem, is to close down the baitfishing industry entirely but there are incomes at stake and a lot of voters that will be griping if they can't get their minnows to go fishing during summer vacation, just like barbecueing and powerboating, it's part of the expectations baked into the culture.
Quebec's ban is interesting, I wonder how they got that through.
Baitfish use is banned in Manitoba, except in certain areas IIRC... fuzzy memory about what the exceptions are. Quebec again IIRC has banned baitfish use outright and if anglers are caught using baitfish on the Quebec side of the border, they will be charged... if there's enough enforcement staff to patrol and investigate.
Ontario, OTOH still allows it, maybe because it brings in $20 million into local economies. Baitfish are outlawed in some protected areas like Algonquin park but there are some still caught baitfishing in there, and the spread of exotic species is thought to be due to road access and bait buckets.
The obvious solution if government is serious about the problem, is to close down the baitfishing industry entirely but there are incomes at stake and a lot of voters that will be griping if they can't get their minnows to go fishing during summer vacation, just like barbecueing and powerboating, it's part of the expectations baked into the culture.
Quebec's ban is interesting, I wonder how they got that through.
I know of a couple places you can get live minnows here although most use "Salties", frozen minnows which fall apart on the hook as soon as they warm up.
Crayfish are banned. Although Yellow Perch are a game fish in Ontario, we can use them as bait here IIRC.
If you mention Dew Worms to Hoop, he will point out they are an invasive species in this country.
It will mostly come down to the honour system for those who move their boats around from lake to lake.
Crayfish are banned. Although Yellow Perch are a game fish in Ontario, we can use them as bait here IIRC.
If you mention Dew Worms to Hoop, he will point out they are an invasive species in this country.
It will mostly come down to the honour system for those who move their boats around from lake to lake.
Ontario is putting regulations on baitfish that will restrict where the minnows you buy came from. Haven't seen the new reg but they announced it a few weeks or maybe months ago.
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