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How much safety is too much safety?

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Srarting a offshoot thread so as not to hijack this thread, which reinvigorated a ponderance of mine. I've wondered about a Type I when I'm standing up and poling by myself. A friend convinced me I should be wearing a helmet when practicing on moving water. But I also pole flatwater on solo ADK overnight trips. On the off chance you conk your head coming out of a boat from standing, a Type I might keep you upright til you come to. But also, at some point trying to mitigate all risk in an inherently risky activity starts to be overkill. I already hate wearing the helmet.
 
I think a type 1 would be overkill, but there are times when I wear a helmet. Not just for falling out - which is a good reason - but also because sometimes a stuck pole can snap back and hit you in the head (which I've had happen).
 
One thing about personal choice versus mandated rule is that you get to decide on your actions but you accept the responsibility for those actions and how they reflect on the paddling community.

I try to choose on my level of safety gear based on the activity and situation of that activity.
PFD: Always on the water. The PFD will vary with the level of risk in that activity.
Helmet: Always on whitewater water where I am strapped in a C1 or open whitewater canoe or in a kayak.
Throw rope or bag: Always on swift moving water.
Appropriate cold weather gear: Always if it is cold and wet.

I've never tried poling so cannot comment on that part of canoeing. It does look like you could whomp your head though, of course you can do that getting out of a shower too.
 
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I wear my helmet when I'm poling on pushy water with rocky bottoms (not gravel) and exposed rock. If the water is deep and wide with no need to get newr exposed rock, I generally don't. If I don't know, I bring the helmet and decide accordingly.
 
Semantics post ahead:

Too much safety is any safety measure you didn't use. Not enough safety is needing a safety measure you didn't bring. Preparedness is the balance between the two.

I wear a PFD, always. I've NEEDED a PFD once. Pillow Rock, upper Gauley, 2007. I would have died without it, not a doubt in my mind. Every other swim, the PFD has been convenient but not necessary. It's a preparedness measure. I've never needed a tourniquet paddling, but I've needed one at my job 3x. A TQ goes with me on the water. I take a patch kit for my air mattress. Never needed it for me, but it saved an early exit for another camper on a -5f night.

My med kit would be crazy overkill for 99.99999% of casual floats down a local river but barely adequate for true penetrating trauma in the wilderness with more than a 3-day exfil window. The same kit goes with me on both types of trips, because I like the familiarity. All up to the individual, I reckon.
 
I'm Ok with type III PFDs for WW and poling. I used to rarely wear it. Since I've upgraded to one with a convenient zipper pocket that holds my phone and other essentials I almost always wear it.

I haven't worn a helmet since learning WW in the late 80s. I'm hoping to get back to class II and III WW and will pull out the air bags and probably the helmet too.
 
Two times I had a helmet on and was glad I did:

First was a WW trip. I was on shore getting pictures of paddlers going through a drop. I ran upstream to get a picture of someone running a higher drop, tripped on a root and went head first into a tree. I was seeing stars.

Second was a poling trip. Pole got stuck on a rock as I was snubbing downstream. When I finally had to let go (or tip over), it snapped back a whacked me in the head. Again saw stars.

I don't roll, so I've never actually whacked my head on a rock in the river - not yet anyway.
 
I've never brought a helmet or used floatation on a WW trip, but I see that you tubers wear them for bigger rapids. I guess you can hit your head anywhere. Our best effort for safety is good decision making, but accidents do happen.
 
No such thing as too much safety. This is especially true on solo trips or working alone.
A good example is how to carry a revolver. The old ones have no transfer bar. People carried 5 rounds in a 6 shooter with the hammer on an empty cylinder. Cautious people carry 4 rounds. Empty under the hammer and the next round to advance is also empty.

A friend of mine a mule packer from Washington State was coming home from a long trip. His lead mule knew they getting close to home and rubbed his face on my friend. The mule somehow managed to advance the trigger on a double action revolver carrying 5 rounds. A round went through my friend's thigh and came by his ankle. He would have bled to death next to the trail but was saved by a passing hiker. Now he carries 4 rounds.
 
A friend of mine a mule packer from Washington State was coming home from a long trip. His lead mule knew they getting close to home and rubbed his face on my friend. The mule somehow managed to advance the trigger on a double action revolver carrying 5 rounds. A round went through my friend's thigh and came by his ankle. He would have bled to death next to the trail but was saved by a passing hiker. Now he carries 4 rounds.
Sounds like a very good time to have had a hammer strap on your holster!
 
No such thing as too much safety. This is especially true on solo trips or working alone.
A good example is how to carry a revolver. The old ones have no transfer bar. People carried 5 rounds in a 6 shooter with the hammer on an empty cylinder. Cautious people carry 4 rounds. Empty under the hammer and the next round to advance is also empty.

A friend of mine a mule packer from Washington State was coming home from a long trip. His lead mule knew they getting close to home and rubbed his face on my friend. The mule somehow managed to advance the trigger on a double action revolver carrying 5 rounds. A round went through my friend's thigh and came by his ankle. He would have bled to death next to the trail but was saved by a passing hiker. Now he carries 4 rounds.

I sometimes take a Mossberg pump shot gun that has the safety on the top of the grip in easy reach with your thumb. I used to keep a round in the chamber until I noticed that the safety would turn from safe to fire on its own. I realized that when I hand carried the gun the safety came in contact with the bottom of my Duluth pack and moved it. I'm very lucky I didn't kill myself, and never kept a kept a shell in the chamber again.
 
You might hate wearing a helmet, maybe one of these wouldn’t bug you as much. I’ve been using the super scrappy for a several years and like it. The sweet protection looks more like a hat.


 
I'll repeat two safety stories I've told before, but first I'd like to add to the good general principles already advocated.

Generally, I will avail myself of a safety measure even when danger is unlikely if that safety measure doesn't really "cost" me anything important. I'm not talking about financial cost. For example:

- Even when I'm paddling in safe and shallow water, I'll almost always use a life jacket because wearing one doesn't really bother me (except in very hot weather). I'm so used to it that I don't even notice it. Hence, no "cost."

- Similarly, I became so used to wearing a helmet for serious whitewater day canoeing that I would often wear one in easy whitewater. I even used to wear one in my vehicle occasionally on the principle that driving to and from the river was the most dangerous aspect of canoeing.

- I rarely need painter lines for any safety or performance reason, but I put them on my canoes because there's no "cost" to having them there. And I usually use them for my vehicle bow/stern tie downs.

Stories:

1. I was once floating along on class 0.5 riffles while sitting on top of the high back of my Perception Saddle, rather than kneeling on it, meaning my center of gravity was very high. I was relaxed, unconcerned, chatting with the boat next to me, and not paying much attention to the easy river. Then, a small sub-surface rock flipped my boat over. As I fell into the shallow water my hip bone hit a sharp rock and became seriously bone bruised. Painful for weeks. If my head had been hit that hard by that sharp rock, I could have died. I did have on my helmet.

2. "Always sit on a pedestal or saddle in whitewater so your legs can't get trapped under a seat or kneeling thwart." That's good advice, but I used to frequently ignore it in my kneeling-thwarted Millbrook ME.

One day, while demonstrating to trainees how to paddle upstream over the top of a big river rock in class 1 water, I again missed seeing a sub-surface rock on the upstream side of the big river rock. It flipped me upstream and the canoe began to fill with water. As the hull crumpled against my calves, I couldn't extricate my legs from under the kneeling thwart. I asked for help but the audience thought the "expert" was just kidding or still demonstrating. Just before my head sank beneath the water, I was able to rip the epoxied kneeling thwart completely off the hull and floated free. My then young, weight-trained body strength and the old, weakened epoxy allowed me to do that.

I vowed never again to paddle rapids other than on a saddle or pedestal, and had John Kazimierczyk replace the kneeling thwarts in that ME with foam pedestals and hip blocks. I've violated that vow only very rarely in the past 35 years. Having several canoes helps to pick one that is properly outfitted for the expected waters.
 
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