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I use this stroke on calm flat water like said above when I don't want other drills or cause more riles on the water. Where I find it most useful is in heavy gusty wind like the last two posters said. The underwater recovery is a moving keg or rudder depending on the wind.

That is because of Myth #3, they turned into Bill Mason. Have you ever seen Bill Mason on a forum?

In profile the Phoenix looks like it would be fast. Owning one, I know better :) Don't get me wrong, it is my go too solo, nimble, fun, good in wind and waves, as far as speed goes, it is not Magic.

That is what it is designed for, works well for it too. It is not a real WW boat, it is a touring boat that handles light WW well. I love mine.

Yes, I use the Phoenix in low water guiding when we can't run rafts and the clients go in duckies.

I love my Phoenix for rivers streams and just having fun on a lake or pond. Yours looks great.

I am a bug magnet, they find me.

Ha, I’m 56 and planning ahead, my left knee is starting to complain (WW injury while raft guiding two seasons ago) that was part of the reason for the Magic, made to sit, not kneel, and only 27lbs. Not in a hurry to transition to this kind of boat and beyond this one I see an ultralight ADK...

I do not mind the paddling critique, you are correct. My paddling style has become a bit confused. I am a right side Canadian style paddler primarily, a WW paddle as a secondary, with a few freestyle moves. For the last 20 years I rarely ever switched sides and if I did, I did it WW style...

Thanks, how did that beautiful stripper canoe fare? I'm sure it is a great boat to paddle, I hope it was not scratched up too much.

How bad are the bugs in July?

I looked at gauges before I left but they all seem far enough away not to be very relevant. I did paddle from eddy to eddy on the way up. This was a my first time on this river and I seem to hit the water level ok. A little lower may have been easier for going upstream.

Took a solo trip up and down the Oswegatchie River to a few miles above the high falls. Oct 26th to 28th 2023. The popular area canoe guide says it is an 8 hour trip up river and 5 hours back down. For me it was about 5 hours up and 3 hours down. The first day I paddled from Inlet Road to...

Nice! Glad you had a good trip.

This guy was a gem for sure, not only did he agree to a price then raise the price over the original asking price, after questioning he said the boat had major repairs that increased the weight by 10 pounds.

Well I was all excited to get a Classic XL but the guy selling it kept upping the price.

Old post, but :) I'm interested int he GR Clasic XL. What does yours weigh? Do you like tripping in it?

That really sucks, but I am surprised just one run did that much damage.

I like the Indian stroke, I do the steering on the recovery. While on the subject of sneaking up on wild life... Since I have started paddling carbon weave boats I noticed I sneak up on large fish and scar them, sometime the even broach the water running away. My previous boats were red and sand...