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Kevin Callan: Death of the Campfire

I’m a fan of a fire while camping. They’re warming, comforting, I love the sounds, the smell… hate the smoke in the face though. We cook on ours, dry our gear, relax by it, and warm up next to it. It just feels right. If there’s a ban, I’ll abide and I’ll only cook on the stove.

One of my favorite moments while tripping is waking up early and crawling out of a warm bed to make a morning fire. Once it’s going, I have some coffee, enjoy the surroundings and read a book or map. There’s something about a morning fire with a wilderness view and hot cup of coffee that has an irreplaceable feeling.

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How about you?
I'm in the "matured" camp I guess. In years pasts, fires were more of a centerpiece for social gatherings (including drinking in the woods) than they are now. Not that getting drunk around a fire was the focus, but social drinking was typically part of the gathering. Nowadays I and most of the people I spend time with don't drink much, if at all, and the centerpiece for socializing has transitioned from a fire ring to chairs overlooking the water. Plus, I spent over two decades fighting wild fires, where we were in thick smoke for many days and nights at a time so the smell and eye irritation from smoke particulates and the lingering odor just doesn't have the same nostalgic draw it once had. I'll still sit around a fire if that's what the group wants to do, but I don't bother with fires much anymore. I do sometimes miss the ritual of gathering wood and keeping a fire burning, but then the wind changes and I'm hit with a blast of smoke and the nostalgia quickly fades. 🫣
 
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Wow, I guess some folks don't know how to socialize sober. Lol.
Our family settings have never been places to imbibe. Don't have a hangup about it, just always had a different focus.
Booze? No. Hot chocolate a big yes. A pinch of cayenne warms it up nicely. Or shave some chocolate into the hot brew.
Not being overly fond of chocolate means I've preferred Russian Caravan, Scottish Breakfast, or Darjeeling.
Let the stories and songs begin.
 
Years ago, I had small fires for cooking when going solo into the wilderness. For a while I used a Trangia alcohol burner stove that was great. Then I discovered a new crop of very compact propane/butane canister stoves that weigh almost nothing. Amazon twice offered me a super light foldable 3 leg stove for $3.00, shipped in packaging direct from China, so I bought them. Fast self-lighting, adjustable flame, clean burning so they don't soot my cookware like a wood fire does, and don't require dangerously balancing on a stack of stones or wood to support a cook pot over the right level of heat (to cook or simmer) without danger of it tipping over and ruining my meal and the fire itself.

Plus, at remote primitive campsites of the type where I often make my camp, those stoves are ultra LNT, leaving absolutely no evidence of burnt ground to reveal my passage. Not to mention, no smoke chasing me and getting in my eyes in my eddy of still air, no matter where I locate myself around it. They are such an efficient time saver, time for me at my primitive campsite better spent reviewing my topo navigation maps to do my bushwhack planning adjustments for tomorrow, preparing my gear for the night, relaxing by reading a book before the sun goes down, or perhaps doing some fishing at dusk.

When with a group that demands a fire, then the fire requires everyone’s attention, with the loss of night vision and hearing all the dark time night sights and sounds that can be so revealing, and other experiences new to most people. Many from city centers have never seen all the stars in a pitch-black sky with fully dark-adapted eyes. Sometimes with scouts I would place a small burning candle at the circle center and enjoy perceptions and discussing thoughts of what the night offers instead of staring at tall dancing flames.

Collecting good dry dead and down firewood, breaking or cutting it up to maintain a fire is just too much unnecessary work. For what purpose for just me? When I was camping with family, or now if I am guiding or training a BSA group, the youngsters are kept busy making and feeding a fire for their pleasure. Unless I can convince them not to.
 
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Wow, I guess some folks don't know how to socialize sober. Lol.
I guess it did come across that way so I edited my post. Not that drunkenness was the reason for the gathering but evening fires did tend to mimic cocktail hours in the woods.
 
I'm about 5-50. Quite often I'm not at a campground and do want to leave the debris or call attention to myself. If I do find myself in a camp site where there's a fire ring I'll start a fire. Usually it gives me something to do after dinner and before bed.
 
For us, the fire is just part of the routine. After landing at our campsite we:

Take a quick break, but not too long or you will run out of energy.
Set up camp.
Forage and cut up firewood.
Get cleaned up.
Move the chairs to the water to enjoy a cocktail while the dinner fire gets going.
Cook and eat dinner.
Enjoy the evening fire.

Cocktails at 6:00, dinner around 7:00, no one goes to bed before 10:00 (we break this one a lot). It is a lot of work, so you definitely need to plan your day so you have the time and energy to gather and cut wood. You also need to make sure everyone is in alignment on the plan.

I’m an early riser (in a group of early risers), so it often falls to me to get the breakfast fire going. I could do it faster on the stove, but there is something to be said for sitting by the fire with mist on the water waiting for the coffee to perk. If we are in a rush we will break down camp while breakfast cooks, but it is nice to sit around and enjoy breakfast before we get going.

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p.s - the trip those pictures came from https://www.flickr.com/photos/eckilson/albums/72177720311597306/with/53224964976
 
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Well, I’d be interested in knowing how many solo trippers use fires to cook regularly. Since I’m alone with my dog (he is terrible about camp tasks although he does bring me his bowl for dinner), all the chores fall on me. Easy to collect ground litter for the twig stove, but I have to be bored with fishing, improving camp, etc. to collect wood and tend a fire. That usually happens with nice weather and a few days in to the camp. It helps if the prior users of the site have left some nice firewood.

I don’t doubt that banning campfires in high use lands will be necessary someday. People won’t comply at first, but as wildfires increase and enforcement increases, it will become one more brick in the wall of an overpopulated world.
 
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I don't cook over an open fire very often. But I always have a fire after dinner when tripping with a human companion. Great for shooting the breeze. When tripping solo or with the dog, I might have a fire 50% of the time. Of course it is a lot of work to gather, cut and split the wood.
 
In summer with sunlight til 9pm and warmer temps a campfire is optional.

Other times of the year if you’re not tending a fire are you just sitting in the cold darkness waiting for bedtime? That feels weird to me.
I doubt anyone here just sits waiting for bed. Unless there’s clear skies, I generally read, go to bed early, wake up early. It’s my natural circadian rhythm. Star watching is fun for a spell, staring into a fire can be nice, listening to the loons and other night sounds, but I’m not dependent on a campfire for happiness.
 
Camped at Assateague over the Veterans Day weekend, and there was a fire ban in effect. Dark at 5pm, and we dined by headlamp. I brought a candle thinking we could socialize around the candle as a symbol of a fire. We made it to a little after 7 before we hit the tents.

People will socialize around a fire. A candle didn't cut it.

Darwin considered language and fire the two most significant achievements of humanity. It is argued that without fire (for cooking), we would never have developed the brains needed for language. No society has been discovered that didn't use fire. So, I think our fascination with fire is baked in. I don't normally cook on fire and don't really need it. Rarely burn a fire if out solo. But a fire definitely promotes socializing at camp.
 
In areas affected by a fire ban what is an acceptable method for cooking?

Imagine stick stoves are no go but a jetboil ok? Alcohol stoves….yes or no?
 
In areas affected by a fire ban what is an acceptable method for cooking?

Imagine stick stoves are no go but a jetboil ok? Alcohol stoves….yes or no?
It depends on the location. I grew up in California and generally they separate wood/charcoal fires from stoves that use liquid fuels.

Usually the first round of fire ban means no wood/charcoal but gas stoves are OK still. They will occasionally ban ALL kinds of fires, including gas stoves, smoking, target shooting (concern of errant sparks from bullet impacts, not sure how valid this is), driving off road, and other fire risk activities. Then you just eat your food cold.
 
In areas affected by a fire ban what is an acceptable method for cooking?

Imagine stick stoves are no go but a jetboil ok? Alcohol stoves….yes or no?

It might vary depending on where you are but generally I believe that during a ban any fire source needs to have an "off switch."

So a canister stove is ok.

Twig stoves are not ok.

Alcohol stoves sound like they might be a bit of a gray area.

Alan
 
When tripping I rarely have a fire unless it is needed for warmth or to dry things out. I cook on a Trangia, but when solo I’ll also eat some meals cold.

I bring a twig stove for back up.

All that said, I hope campfires aren’t totally banned, for all the good reasons already mentioned.
 
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