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Howdy,

I married Lady Oats over the weekend. Tonight, over our first wings and fries date as husband and wife, we had the family planning talk. Over the course of the conversation, we came to the conclusion that I may be able to get one more big wilderness trip in the bag before taking a few years off to get the next generation of Oats paddlers up to tripping condition.

All that said, I want to know your bucket list routes and your all-star trips that you're glad you can look back on. I need one more big Dad Lore trip under my belt.

Alan Gage's attempt on Nueltin largely inspired me into canoe tripping, so that's high on my list.
 
My top two and they have been there for a long time

Wollaston Lake (Northern Sask) to Kasba Lake to Baker Lake via the Kazan River, 7 plus weeks
Shefferville to Kuujjuaq (Northern Quebec) on the Swampy Bay River (4 weeks)

For both I'm a bit hesitant to go solo, that hesitancy increases the longer it doesn't happen!

I have done a few "all star" trips but probably the favourite (I've done three different versions) is the George River. 25 - 50 days depending on starting point. The long version starts in Labrador and ends at Ungava Bay.
 
The Thlewiaza area would be an awesome choice, and could lead you to the ocean via many different routes. There’s so many great watersheds to explore in this area and it can be fairly cheap to get there and back to civilization. My all star trip in this area is Wollaston to Thlewiaza, Putahow, Nueltin, Wolverine, Seal. Very cheap logistics for me being a resident of the central prairies and it got a good number of bucket list rivers checked off although not in their entirety. I don’t loose any sleep over it though, there’s just too many places I gotta see.
My wish list is a Labrador trip in Recpeds favourite playground and maybe for my half century, an almost cross Canada solo paddle.
I’d love to do a few more high artic trips but they’re just too cost prohibitive these days to do them solo, the kids gotta eat and play hockey.
Good luck on your future adventures! Adding little ones to the mix is just the beginning of a new and exciting way of travelling.
 
How long do you want to be out and what are your priorities (scenery, great fishing, solitude, rapids)?
I haven't gotten far enough to think through priorities, although I'll answer a resounding "yes" to all those, plus a fair bit of hardship along the way. We can probably do two weeks on the trail for something like this.

I'm looking less for suggestions at this point and more for everybody's favorite routes and destinations. Gotta get the creative juices flowing and build up the reading list for honeymoon downtime.
 
no reason to hang up your paddles, my kid's first trip was at about 8 weeks old and she continued tripping with me until she decided on having a kid of her own, for the first 5 or so years it just meant more base camping and shorter portages, first time she ran the French River she was an oldster of a whole 7 years...
 
no reason to hang up your paddles, my kid's first trip was at about 8 weeks old and she continued tripping with me until she decided on having a kid of her own, for the first 5 or so years it just meant more base camping and shorter portages, first time she ran the French River she was an oldster of a whole 7 years...
Certainly won't be hanging up the paddles! I just want to take the opportunity to get one more big dog trip in before a few years of base camp trips.
 
We can probably do two weeks on the trail for something like this.
That's about what I usually plan for although I have yet to find a "favorite" and next summer's will likely be longer.

My long trips since joining this site:

My BWCA route was awesome and, while somewhat remote, had the security of feeling that help wasn't completely unavailable. Amenities such as thunderboxes & fire grates were at all sites. Robert Beymer has written some excellent books with route suggestions and you'll probably find paddleplanner helpful to combine routes as few of Beymer's suggestions are more than 3-5 days.

(Paddleplanner also has info on other parks like WCPP, Algonquin, the Everglades and Wabakimi but the amount of info available varies widely depending on how many people volunteer their efforts to post pictures and campsite/portage info; especially since they've gone more pay-to-use-it than they did previously. Still a good resource though... even in free mode)

The Steel River was great! Awesome scenery, good fishing, the river would have been lots of fun with more water and the portages were challenging as were Cairngorm & Steel lakes (obviously varies with wind). You could increase the challenge by taking on the Diablo portage if you want the "street cred" (I've been told it's worth doing once) and, if beginning the trip on Santoy, I probably would.

Here too, thunderboxes existed at almost every site although they were plywood instead of fiberglass and some were sketchy. There was usually a fire grate somewhere around camp if you needed it but the camps and portages showed much less evidence of being used.

For me, the most likely to get a do-over is the Marshall lake loop simply because of the excellent fishing and the solitude. I really think I could have been out there for 2+ weeks and seen nobody until I reached the last few lakes. Fishing was terrific though scenery wasn't as varied as the BWCA or the Steel and some of the ports will test your mettle (and, perhaps, your marriage).

I saw no evidence of thunderboxes on that route and the only amenity on most sites was the firepit. Portages & campsites showed very little evidence of being used although there was a bit more garbage along the route than the aforementioned 2 routes. The last 2 portages, in particular, are pretty taxing. I'm not sure whether the two, combined, are as bad as Diablo since I avoided it but @memaquay could speak to that as he's done all of them more times than (probably) anyone.

He can also provide some excellent maps.

I totally agree with scoutergriz above. Get the kids out early but maybe the ADKs, BWCA or similar until they're old enough to walk portage trails.

Whatever you choose, keep us updated.
 
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