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Identifying a Great Canadian Canoe

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Hello! I picked up a ~15 foot Great Canadian tonight. Overall seems in decent shape. The hull is sound, but it needs a front seat and thwarts. Does anyone know anything about these boats, and is there an ID plate? If anyone could give me some advice about restoration, please let me know! Also, in terms of replacing the thwarts, what should the overall width of this boat be? As it stands, it sits at 38.75."
 

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When I started paddling (2005), the Great Canadian Canoe Company was located on Route 146 in Sutton, MA. It was probably located in Worcester, MA at some time before that. They were a distributor, not a manufacturer - importing canoes and kayaks from Canada and reselling them under the Great Canadian name. They have been out of business for years. Don’t know who actually manufactured the boats, but it should have an HIN number. The canoes were pretty popular around here (southern New England) with the fishing crowd. I still have a Great Canadian kayak in my basement (Rainbow) that I bought for my daughter. I used to see a lot of Great Canadian boats around – now not so much.
 
It should have a hull identification number on the starboard stern. The information at https://www.usps.org/national/safety/HIN/HIN.pdf can help you interpret it.

Benson
Benson: Looking at the stern of the craft, doesn't look like there is anything there. I figured it would be on one of the sides near the decal, but there seems to be reddish tape over each end. Do I have to scrape all of that tape off to reveal it?
Thanks
 
Do I have to scrape all of that tape off to reveal it?

A hull identification number should not be under tape, unless someone wanted to hide the number at some point in the past. The images below show two versions of hull identification tags from Great Canadian canoes in 1979 and 1985.

Benson


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A hull identification number should not be under tape, unless someone wanted to hide the number at some point in the past. The images below show two versions of hull identification tags from Great Canadian canoes in 1979 and 1985.

Benson


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Where on the boat would these be located? I will take clearer photos after work today. Do you know what the width from the widest point on the gunwales should be? I'm planning on replacing thwarts and can't seem to find much information about these boats online.

Thanks!
 
Where on the boat would these be located?
Near the stern, on the starboard (right) side, usually right under the gunwale. In canoes, typically on the inside. Also check the underside of the deck/end cap and seat.

Did you note that both of these plates are riveted in place? Check for a pair of closely spaced holes, just in case someone removed the plate in the past. (Technically illegal)
 
Near the stern, on the starboard (right) side, usually right under the gunwale. In canoes, typically on the inside. Also check the underside of the deck/end cap and seat.

Did you note that both of these plates are riveted in place? Check for a pair of closely spaced holes, just in case someone removed the plate in the past. (Technically illegal)
On this canoe, the front seat has gone missing. Is that a possibility on the location? I will look under the rear seat. There are no closely spaced holes. My guess is it is somewhere on the inside but I am missing it. On the inside, I assume it is on the starboard side but on the inside. What is the end cap? New to canoes, mostly coming from powerboats and sailboats.

Thanks!
 
Not if the manufacturer was following regulations.


That's what I'd expect.


The bit that connects to two gunwales at the end. Yours are really small.
Ah, ok. Thank you. The handle part is rather small, but I will have to take a look underneath. Do you know if it would be under the bow or stern part? Another question, is do you know the width of these boats normally?
 
Should be the stern, but if you're having difficulty finding it it doesn't hurt to check everywhere.

Width will vary depending on the design - In person, you might be able to guesstimate by watching what happens to the hull shape as you pull the sides in or out.
 
The first image below shows where the hull identification number is below the outside rail on the right side above the round logo at the back. The second image lists some beam widths from a 1983 catalog at https://www.ebay.com/itm/255503715729 on eBay.

Benson



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The first image below shows where the hull identification number is below the rail on the right side above the round logo at the back. The second image lists some beam widths from a 1983 catalog at https://www.ebay.com/itm/255503715729 on eBay.

Benson



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Thank you so much. That book is incredibly helpful, I may buy that. However, my boat does not have that tag. No filled holes, either. Just some odd looking red strips. I might try and peel those off and see if I can uncover it. It does appear it has been painted at one time, maybe it has been painted over. Thank you!
 
As previously stated, Great Canadian was the importer, not the manufacturer, and so they would usually add a tag with their HIN number. But often, the true Canadian manufacturer's HIN would still be embossed in the fiberglass. There were a few suppliers to Great Canadian, and many began with the letter 'Q' (QJO was one if I recall). Most canoes were fitted with hideous vinyl covered seats, which you will happily replace with something befitting your fly-fishing machine.
 
It should have a hull identification number on the starboard stern. The information at https://www.usps.org/national/safety/HIN/HIN.pdf can help you interpret it.

Benson
I meant to point this out earlier, but the USPS document seems to be missing the Month/Letter code that accompanies the HIN format after August 1, 1984 (Figure 2) that the document references from Boatsafe.com I reached out to them but never heard anything back.

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I meant to point this out earlier, but the USPS document seems to be missing the Month/Letter code that accompanies the HIN format after August 1, 1984 (Figure 2) that the document references from Boatsafe.com I reached out to them but never heard anything back.

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This is my starboard stern
 

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